When are names written in the Lamb's book of life?

Exodus 32:32
Exodus 32:33
Psalms 69:28

So, the Old Testament teaches names are blotted out of the book due to sin.

Also, you forgot Revelation 3:5.

Also, I'm not Arminian on soteriology, I hold more to a quasi-Lutheran approach. We are predestined and God wants none in hell this is the paradox of God's higher ways.

 

Heb 4:3. '......Although the works were finished from [Gk. apo] the foundation of the world./
Heb 9:26. 'He would then have had to suffer often since [Gk. apo] the foundation of the world.'

God's works of creation were finished from the foundation of the world. Therefore there were no more of them since that time.
If Christ had made a once-for-all sacrifice for sin, He would have had to suffer constantly since the foundation of the world.

Therefore, when we read of the names 'written in the Lamb's book of life from [Gk. apo] the foundation of the world,' the fact that apo is used does not tell us whether the names were written at the foundation of the world, or throughout the time since then. It is the context that will help us decide.

 

I don't see how I misrepresented your view. I was asking for details of your view I haven't seen you provide. Those were questions, not asserts of your views.

 

he problem is God is omniscient so the names of the saved are eternally present in his mind and unchanging plan.

 

Well, it seems you are understanding what as done "from" to mean to have been done "at" that foundation of the world. Not between then and now.

 

A few things to note. The book of life is only called the "Lamb:s" book in Revelation 21:27 (Revelation 13:8). Referring to names being removed (or not), Exodus 32:32-33, Psalms 69:28, Revelation 3:5. And NASB translates the Hebrew in Psalms 69:28, as the "book of life."

 

Romans 8:29-30, ". . . For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. .Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. . . ."

 

you are misrepresenting, you are only predestined to be in the form of Jesus AS A HUMAN, place time family etc.
note one cannot be like Jesus (as you suppose the verse says) until one is called, justified and glorified, All three as part of salvation

so the verse is not as you suppose

reference:
Heb 2:14

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

 

Believers have eternal life. Eternal life has no beginning or end and always stands in the immutable council of God.

 

Interpretations do that. That is what sets an interpretion apart from the explicite reading of a text. OT, Exodus 32:32-33; Psalms 69:27-28; Daniel 12:1-2, NT, Revelation 3:5; Revelation 20:11-15, are nevertheless related.

 

Believers have a beginning. So if eternal life can only be without a beginning, then those who have a beginning can never really ever have eternal life.

What is caused has a beginning. What is uncaused is God Himself.

 

Eternal life has no beginning or end. Believers are brought forth in time and awakened to the fact God saved them through the faith he gives them.

 

Right on Martin!

 

It is my understanding we whom God saves are predestined to be glorified like His Son. How is that a missunderstanding?

 

So am I to understand you, you actually beleive when we have eternal life (1 John 5:12-13) we become like God to have no beginning?

 

I hesitate to state the blindingly obvious, but whether you translate apo as 'from' or 'since' (or indeed 'at,' 'by,' 'for,' 'in,' 'on,' or 'sonce') does not change the meaning of the original which can only be discerned by the context.
FWIW, the KJV translates apo as 'since' only seven times, and as 'from' 372 times [source: Young's Analytical Concordance]

 

EVERYTHING Jesus Christ
was to Be, Do and Suffer for His people
WAS DETERMINED by GOD
in ETERNITY PAST.

The Extent of the Decrees,
ETERNAL DETERMINATIONS
and Purposes of God,

Continue to be Proven
showing that the Decrees,
ETERNAL DETERMINATIONS
and Purposes of God,

Reach to
the EXTENT of ALL THINGS
that Come to Pass in the World,


INCLUDING:

The peopling of the world,
the distinction of nations;
the rise, progress,
and ruin of states, kingdoms,
COUNTRIES and empires,

Particularly, the people of Israel,
The Assemblies of GOD'S people,
in the Old Testament
and the New Testament,

In short,

everything respecting

all the individuals of the world

from the Beginning of the World,
to the End of the World,

are

The Result of the Decrees,
ETERNAL DETERMINATIONS
and Purposes of God,

in addition to:

All that Jesus Christ
was to Be,

All that Jesus Christ
was to Do,

and All that Jesus Christ
was to Suffer
for His people.

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All that Jesus Christ
was to Be, Do, and Suffer
for His people,
are what the Hand and Counsel of God
before Determined;

JESUS' Incarnation,

the time of JESUS' Coming
into the world;

all that JESUS met with,
from the Hand of God,

from men and devils,

while in the World;

as well as,

JESUS' Sufferings and Death,
and all circumstances attending the same

as GOD shows us in Galatians 4:4;

"But when the fulness of the time
was come,

God Sent Forth His Son,
Made of a woman,
Made under the law"

from Acts 4:28, 2:23;

"For to do whatever Your Hand
and Your Counsel
Determined
before to be done...

"Him, Being Delivered by the
Determinate Counsel
and
Foreknowledge of God,
you have taken,
and by wicked hands
have Crucified and Slain"

and in Luke 22:22, 37;

"And truly the Son of Man Goes,
as it was
Determined:
but woe to that man

by whom He is Betrayed!"

In a word,
everything that
Comes to Pass in this World,
from the Beginning of the World
to the End of the World,
is Pre-Ordained;

Everything, good and bad;
"good" by GOD'S Effective Decrees;

that is, such by which He Determines

what He Will Do Himself,

or Will be Done by others;



and "evil" things,

by His Permissive Decrees,

by which He Permits things to be done;

and which He Overrules for His Own Glory;



Things contingent,
which, with respect to second causes,

may seem to be, or not be,

as the free actions of men;

such as the Prophesies,

Founded on Decrees,

concerning the names of Josiah and Cyrus,

and of actions being performed by them

of their own free will,

many hundreds of years before they were born;


Even things of the least importance,
as well as the greatest;

the hairs of mens' heads are numbered;

two sparrows, not worth more than a farthing,
and yet DO NOT fall to the ground,
without the Knowledge,

Will, and Purpose of God
(Matthew 10:29, 30;

"Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing?
and one of them will not fall on the ground
without your Father.

But the very hairs of your head
are all numbered."

Adapted from:
http://www.gracesermons.com/robbeeee/Gill-book2.html

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one can't be like His Son , maturity as you suppose, until after one of called, then justified and glorified.
The verse is showing to be a human, first is required ( Heb 11) then can be called, then adjusted (salvation) then glorified