Did America sin declaring independance from Britain?

Not at all.

To me, you're looking for an excuse not to obey God.
Are you?

if not, then you will bear as much as you can, and then after carefully seeking the Lord's will, move to a more peaceful place.
Believers should never rise up against their leaders...."froward" ( harsh ) or otherwise.

 

Somehow I don't think you'd like the answers, but I do hope that I am wrong.

Scripture has the answers.
Where do you think I got them?

If you're looking to change my mind, you might have a long time to wait.
I didn't come to my conclusions and convictions overnight.

I think it's obvious what the answers are without me telling you.

Do you justify rebellion?
I hope not.

" For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from [being] king." ( 1 Samuel 15:23 ).

Here the Lord is speaking through His prophet Samuel to Saul.
He is expressing a principle that all men should take notice of...rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.

Rebellion against God-appointed authority is not wise, and invites God's wrath, sir.

We as believers should do everything we can to avoid bringing reproach to His name and to ourselves.
Obeying the laws and the rulers of our countries is our reasonable service to Him as His children.

 

Seek your answers from God, sir.

My "silence" should be enough to cause you to go to His word and heed it.
May God bless you in your studies.

 

No tyranny is not worth rebelling against. Assuming tyranny is persecution of citizens for doing good. We should instead flee that nation and let God take vengeance one day. I have to affirm that the saints who died against Rome and the Roman Catholic Church and the magisterial Protestants that did not rebel were doing the right thing, based on Romans 13. However, nations can defend themselves and resist conquerors.

Where do you get in the bible that Christians militarily resist the man of lawlessness? I am interested to find out.

 

My view is that the local leaders of the colonies had no legal right to throw off the governance of England and create their own.
Yes, that would have made me a "Tory", but not in the real sense.

My resistance to open rebellion would have been as a believer.
My personal dislike of a situation would not be enough to take up arms in defiance of it, no matter how "popular" it might seem to do so.
Jesus made this statement to Pontius Pilate:

" Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." ( John 18:36 ).

Paul made this statement to Timothy:

" No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of [this] life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier." ( 2 Timothy 2:4 ).

This isn't my world.
I'm here to "occupy" until He comes again.

Until then, I'm to do my best to obey the laws and rulers, and be at peace with all men.
That means not taking up arms against my fellow man, nor God-ordained authority.

 

If that's what you want to believe, sir, you are free to do so.

May God bless you.

 

You're welcome.
I'm glad I could help.

Please read post # 89 for my reasons why I think believers should not resist the powers that be ( Romans 13:1-2 ).
It is never good to be on the side of law-breakers, unless one is obeying the Lord in the face of man's flagrant disobedience of Him.
Say, for instance in the case of legalizing abortion.

We as Christ's sheep should always seek peace, and ensue it ( Psalms 34:14, 1 Peter 3:10-11 ).

 

I'm not here to argue, nor to debate.
Only to comment and leave it at that.

The overall truth is, I don't care about mankind's desires to fight and war against one another.
I think it's an ugly business and reflective of a selfish heart and a hateful attitude, especially against our fellow man.

None of it is glorious and all of it is because we as corrupt men take issue with being "tread upon" and then do a little "treading" back.
To me, avoiding war is far better than participating in it by a long shot.

 

Mankind is sinful, Salty.
"Thou shalt not kill" means, "Thou shalt not kill".

They were under a covenant of Law with God.

If He commanded them to go to war, then it was not a sin.
It would have been a sin to disobey Him, such as when they did not wipe out some of the tribes around them that He specifically told them to.