You can be saved without the Gospel???

That is not anywhere.

That is made up, added, junk.

Is that what gives this goofiness it's fuel?

Nothing.

And a dead baby?

 

No unregenerate man is stated in these verses.

Back up on creating false doctrines, based on nothing.

Or, a dead baby.

 

WERE you "saved", in Eternity Past?

 

When did The Sovereign God "save" The Elect?

 

Romans 3 that’s right!

So you understand that:


Romans 3:10-12 KJV
[10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: [11] There is none that understandeth, there is ➡️none that seeketh after God⬅️. [12] They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Here we see that man is a God hater by nature and we don’t even seek Him before regeneration.


How do we seek Him?

The Gospel/Holy Bible.


Only the regenerated child of God will seek God.


1 Corinthians 2:14 KJV
[14] But the natural man receiveth ➡️not⬅️ the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


These are clear proves that anyone that seeks God and believes the Gospel has already passed from death to life.


There’s no way that the natural man will listen to the Gospel preaching for rebirth because 1) it’s foolishness to him and 2) he does NOT seek after God.


When a person accepts Jesus as Lord by the preaching of the Gospel is because regeneration has already taken place and he’s going through conversion. Two different steps.


The Gospel does save us because what took place in it and that’s Christ dying for the elect.


However we’re not saved because we hear the Gospel.


The blood of Christ redeemed us, not our faith.


Faith is the byproduct of our regeneration, not the means for it.


If the cross is foolishness to the natural man how can we think that they’ll ever sincerely believe the crucifixion account.


Christ’s calling quickens to eternal life but the Gospel message calls to conversion.


If the preaching causes regeneration then the preacher becomes a type of savior.

 

The Gospel gives us a temporal salvation on Earth. A peace of mind because it teaches us what Christ has done for us. We no longer have to be afraid Hell and damnation. We repent and become converted!


Christ’s sacrifice/blood is what gives us eternal justification and washed us clean!

 

I believe he will say that he was 'saved' when he was Elected.

It is an 'election of grace' phenomenon, as an embellishment into something unheard of, in The Bible.

Let's see how many directions his horse rides off in. .

 

You chose a poor one. Mohler totally misapplied the type in this case:

"...One biblical text is particularly helpful at this point. After the children of Israel rebelled against God in the wilderness, God sentenced that generation to die in the wilderness after forty years of wandering. "Not one of these men, this evil generation, shall see the good land which I swore to give your fathers."(4) But this was not all. God specifically exempted young children and infants from this sentence, and even explained why He did so: "Moreover, your little ones who you said would become prey, and your sons, who this day have no knowledge of good and evil, shall enter there, and I will give it to them and they shall possess it."(5) The key issue here is that God specifically exempted from the judgment those who "have no knowledge of good or evil" because of their age. These "little ones" would inherit the Promised Land, and would not be judged on the basis of their fathers' sins.,,,"

The fact is that even after all the wickedness Israel had done in the wilderness after leaving Egypt (unbelief, disobedience, murmuring, idolatry, fornication, rebellion, etc.), and even with Balaam wanting so badly to curse Israel, God made Balaam to declare:

He hath not beheld iniquity in Jacob; Neither hath he seen perverseness in Israel: Jehovah his God is with him, And the shout of a king is among them. Nu 23:21
(Blessed is the man to whom, the Lord will not reckon sin. Ro 4:8)

AND, throughout all their wandering/chastening in the Wilderness He still yet gave them shade by day and light by night, He fed them manna, gave them water, their clothes never wore out, their feet didn't blister, etc., He was with them always even though He granted them no repentance to enter into His Rest. They wandered in the Wilderness for the rest of their lives when they could have spent it in the Land of Milk & Honey had they only believed and obeyed the gospel that it was their's for the taking.

The lesson here is not about infants going to heaven, it's about God's faithfulness (Romans 3:3; 2 Timothy 2:13) and the power of Christ's atonement (Exodus 12:13).

It's like I said, you all make up provisions for some to 'go to heaven' apart from the gospel, yet deny those same provisions for others.

 

Correct the paraphrase if I'm wrong:

"You can go to heaven without the Gospel???"

That's what you're really asking, right?

 

No evidence for Paul, but I’ll grant you Cornelius simply because apparently he had gathered a group to hear.

 

I posted:

You posted:

Unless you can do better at answering the question, “Who, on this thread, can post exactly what is mean by “gospel”?” then why do you even respond?

I gave four examples of the use of “gospel” and your response is giving demeaning accusation of absolutely no value to you nor the thread.

Do you even know what “gospel” means and the uses in Scripture?

Please spend time contributing to the thread rather than proclaiming unfounded heresy.

Is it possible you do not know the definition and exampled use of “gospel” ?

We have yet to see.

 

Very good, now was he given the gospel as some suggested necessary for salvation, by some posts, or was he merely informed of why the guy showed up?