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Well you have tied yourself to the name "John Wimber". If you are not charismatic at all then you might fit in well. Baptist churches do not hold to speaking in tongues, faith healers, believe in faith and God will give you anything you want etc.

 

@atpollard might shed some thoughts on your question. I believe he may be a Reformed Baptist who is not a cessationist.

 

Actually, that's precisely what a heretic is.

Sounds like you need to invest in a dictionary as well as a Bible.

 

heretic

her·e·tic | \ ˈher-ə-ˌtik

, ˈhe-rə-\
Definition of heretic
1 religion : a person who differs in opinion from established religious dogma

2 : one who differs in opinion from an accepted belief or doctrine

There you go, champ.

 

Yea I read it, tongues under any condition will not fly in the average Baptist church. None of the sign gifts will. You used the name John Wimber. I suggest you go back and study what he himself believed and practiced.

 

The bottom line is that Rev Mitchell is right. You would most likely not be accepted into a Baptist church, not necessarily because you believe in the gibberish of tongues, but because you don't appear to know the difference between sound and false doctrines.

And now, if you'll excuse me, it's time for me to follow Proverbs 26:4 and put you on ignore where you belong.

 

Sign gifts like tongues typically are.

 

I am not a cessationist either. I believe God has all his gifts at his disposal to reach the world with the gospel. I believe tongues is a known language, as shown in Acts, not a babbling that is then claimed to be angelic language. That claim is selfish and not valuable to the church. But, God has shown he uses tongues in reaching the unreached at very specific times.
Cessationist's will claim 1 Corinthians 13 as their reason for "sign gifts" ceasing. They state that the perfect is the fulfillment of the Canon of scripture. I believe the perfect is the return of Christ at the day of the Lord.

You can find Baptist Churches who embrace all the gifts. They are rare, but you can find them. Often they will be Reformed Baptist, but you may also find them in Missionary Baptist churches.

1 Corinthians 13:7-12 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never ends. As for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part, but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.

 

Which is the perfect definition from Martin Luther onward. Good job, you have inadvertently proved who the real heretics are.

 

None of the churches in the Apostolic New Testament era were "Free and Independent" entities with the faithful allowed to decide the things in the Scriptures for themselves. Nope, they looked to the established church authority for guidance, you know like when St. Paul wrote to the outlying churches to tell them where they were in error and that they had better mend their ways?

 

While not to intrude on your Internet anonymity, if you could tell us what general area you're in, it might help with recommendations.

 

I 'm sure the Holy Spirit manifests Himself & does miracles, even "tongues", as HE chooses, not when men choose. He uses "tongues" & their interpretation very-little, but He does healings, etc. every day.

And He doesn't always do "instant miracles". For instance, He kept my wife alive after a schoolbus accident in late 2000 that would ordinarily killed her, as half the bones in her body were broken, both lungs were punctured, liver lacerated, some intestines crushed. But she healed SLOWLY, being kept unconscious in ICU for a month & a half. But she recovered enough to go back to work the following year, with some disabilities, of course, and as part of the miracle, her mind remained completely unaffected, with no memory loss, behavioral changes, etc.

I don't think too many people find a "perfect" church, so my best answer is to SINCERELY PRAY about it, & attend at least one service in all churches you believe might share at least most of your beliefs. I believe GOD will let you know if He wants you in a certain church when you attend a service in it.

 

Unfortunately the Roman Church became a puppet of the Roman Empire when it became a State Church. No longer did it follow the scriptures as written by God through the Apostles, but it wrote its own godless opinions into code and demanded all citizens of the State obey its godless codes. Indulgences is a great example of godless codes foisted on the masses by an apostate church in Rome.