Jesus Christ was Born of Woman . . . fact or fiction?

Where in the Bible is Mary referred to as the New Eve? Sounds like manmade tradition to me.

 

Again, how? We agree that, ". . . Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: . . ." -- 2 Peter 3:6. Do we not?

Ok, how does that make the immersion the anti-type of Noah and family save through water of the flood? (Without the not mentioned ark they too would have perished with that world that was.) BTW, typically Catholics are not immersed. And babies cannot excercize a good conscience toward God. So as I am hearing your Catholic arguments here, does not make good sense.

Personally, my understanding is the believer's immersion represents to no longer live for this world, but to live for God and His Kingdom. So you know my view.

 

No need for the Bible to make the claim. The fact that the children are named is sufficient to know they had a healthy sex life.
Yet, you go out of your way to make up a fantastical story about how they couldn't be sexually active to the glory of God.

 

The context clearly shows they are Jesus brothers and sisters, just as Mary is mother and Joseph is father.
Now, I'm waiting for the argument that Joseph was a polygamist with another wife from which the other kids were produced. Care to go there?

 

Sooooooo, where does it say that these “named” adelphoi of Jesus are Mary’s children??

Acts 1:15 says that there were 120 adelphoi gathered together in Jerusalem to choose a successor for Judas. ELEVEN of them are mentioned by name. Does this mean that they were they ALL from the same mother??

We know that they weren‘t because that would mean all of the Apostles were uterine brothers.

So much for YOUR asinine theory that names = Mary’s children . . .

 

How these the context "clearly" show this??

 

You don't understand the verb conceive. Or how it works.

If its not her DNA then she is not the mother period.

Neither is Jesus human.

If we conceive a child, miraculously transplant it into your womb, YOU ARE NOT THE MOTHER.

You are overboard wrong here. Give me some names of your superiors, I guarantee not everyone in your camp shares your radical view.

Hypostatic Union is the correct understanding.

Your heresy was started by a Gnostic Valentinus.


The whole point of Jesus being human is conceived, son of man, actual human.

If not God could have just TELEPORTED Jesus "a complete human being" straight to earth.


God is not subject to physical mechanics, spiritual mechanics, or any law of existence.

God does not need a tow truck to move your car.

 

Context my son. Read the context and know they are Mary and Joseph's kids.
Or...live in denial and keep jumping the shark.

 

Read and find out. It's straight forward. No pretzels needed.

 

Tell that to any adoptive parent. My goodness you struggle with these simple things.

Did God create Adam from the seed of a man and the egg of a woman?
I rest my case.

 

Jesus said anyone who does God's will is his brother and mother. So we can say couple billion mothers Jesus has.


Hebrews 2

14Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil,



Who is Jesus' biological mother then? God the MOTHER?

 

There is no biological connection to Mary. There is an umbilical connection so that God would be fed in the womb, however.
Do you believe in a miraculous conception so that no seed or egg was needed for God to become human?
Do you believe Adam was formed from dust rather than from seed and egg?
What part confuses you?

 

Okay - here is the FULL context:

Matt. 13:54-57
Coming to his hometown, he (Jesus) began teaching the people in their synagogue, and they were amazed. “Where did this man get this wisdom and these miraculous powers?” they asked. “Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother’s name Mary, and aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon and Judas? Aren’t all his sisters with us? Where then did this man get all these things?” And they took offense at him.

But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home.”

Sooooo, where does it says that they are the uterine siblings of Jesus??
Where does it say that Mary is their mother?
Where does it say that Joseph is their father??

Thee ONLY one who paternity is answered by these verse is that of JESUS.
When you read the accounts of the women at the foot of the cross with Mary – it shows that these men are the sons of the “other Mary”, who ic called Mary’s “sister” (Adelphe) and wife of Clopas/Alphaeus.

We KNOW that they aren’t uterine sisters because they are BOTH named Mary – even though “Adelphe” is used here.

You’ve got a LOT of ‘splainin’ to do . . .

 

Where does it say Mary is the uterine mother?
You make me laugh as you desperately push the unsupportable dogma of your church.

 

"Do you believe in a miraculous conception so that no seed or egg was needed for God to become human?"
Indeed, In fact he needs no mother at all. Need not go thru childhood.

and ZAP himself here I am........... Which is the point of being seed of human beings!


"Do you believe Adam was formed from dust rather than from seed and egg?"
Seed and Eggs are formed from dust too. I'm sure things of atomic size can qualify as dust.


"What part confuses you?"
Let me tell you what you can't handle. The DNA make up could have been of a monkey it has no bearing GOD is in control.
Under making a point of Prophecy and Scriptural TRUTH however, Jesus Christ SHARES in the flesh and blood.

Under your fantasy. Jesus would not even be Jewish. He would be a Gentile. Your mother establishes you as JEWISH.

 

WRONG.

Jesus is the heir of David.
He HAD to be of the Davidic bloodline (John 7:42,Rev. 22:16) in order to fulfill prophecy.

He is even referred to as “Son of David” (Matt. 1:1, Mark 10:48, Rom. 1:3).

Jesus calls HIMSELF the “Son of MAN” (Matt. 20:28, Matt. 9:6, Mark 8:38, Luke 18:8).

YOUR nonsense that He wasn’t a human being from the bloodline of David is flat-out heresy.

 

Couldn't find a verse, huh?

That's what I thought . . .

 

God could have just shown up as a human. He chose to come according to his promise and his covenant.
Do you struggle with this?