Animism?

[Walpole]

That has already been shared with you and you were shown to be wrong.
I don't expect you are going to willingly admit your church is horribly wrong. But, others here will see it. We will ask God to open your eyes on this matter. You are his child. He won't let you remain in this false belief. He will sanctify you, just as he is sanctifying all of us who have been made his children by Christ Jesus atonement.

Please link to the post.

Thanks!

 

[Walpole]

No, the woman is not Mary, absolutely, as you said by the spirit of lie, you are wrong completely, the woman is the true Church of the Lord, the body of Christ. She is the mother of Michael (Revelation 12:1-2 & 5 &.7)

Actually who says the woman is Mary, as you said by the spirit of lie, it is the follower of the red Dragon, Satan, with his 7 heads, and 10 horns and a terrible and devilish TAIL. The woman - the true Church of Christ - is showed in Scriptures being face to face with Satan, the red Dragon, in this time of Apocalipse, Satan stands before the woman in work to give birth to the man child, for his intention was to devour the man child, as soon as he was born.

Are you saying Mary gave birth to Michael, who became incarnate? (Rev. 12:2)

And it is actually Michael, not Jesus, who rules all nations? (Rev. 12:5)

 

[Walpole]

Did not you understand yet? I will try to clarify through another words.

See, how may someone dead and buried in the tomb appear to you? Yeah, how? Never, but never. Will be you do not understand that JESUS died and was buried in sepulchre, and He only appeared after His resurrection?

Not only He was seen after His resurrection, but when JESUS died on the cross having cried with a loud voice, yielded up the spirit, and behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after the resurrection, and went into the holy city, and they appeared unto many.

That said I ask: How may Mary appears unto any after she died and her body being buried in a sepulchre until today? Yeah, how??? That never happens, never, but never.

The mother of JESUS did not resurrect yet and is waiting her resurrection in this seventh and last Day. I call also the apostles of the Lord, all them died, were buried in sepulchres, and they are waiting their ressurection that will happen now in this seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium. Hallelujaaaa!!!

1 Cor.15:v.1-8KJV
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

Mary can appear to St. John the same way Moses and Elijah appeared to Sts. Peter, John and James: By the power of God.

 

[Particular]

Please link to the post.

Thanks!

Go back through your Mary apparition thread and find it if you wish.

 

[Walpole]

Go back through your Mary apparition thread and find it if you wish.

I'll take that as your white flag. Troll on soldier!

 

[Particular]

I'll take that as your white flag. Troll on soldier!

LOL, I take that as your unwillingness to wade through the mire of your Mary worship thread.

 

[Walpole]

LOL, I take that as your unwillingness to wade through the mire of your Mary worship thread.

After you post the link to where you supposedly addressed the mysticism of the apparitions of Sts. Stephen, Paul and John and how those did not have their origin in Animism (the OP), please post the link to this Mary worship thread I supposedly started.

 

[Particular]

After you post the link to where you supposedly addressed the mysticism of the apparitions of Sts. Stephen, Paul and John and how those did not have their origin in Animism (the OP), please post the link to this Mary worship thread I supposedly started.

LOL

 

[Walter]

LOL, I take that as your unwillingness to wade through the mire of your Mary worship thread.

I waded through the thread and couldn't find it. Perhaps you are mistaken.

 

[Walpole]

I waded through the thread and couldn't find it. Perhaps you are mistaken.

Is there an invisible font some posters use that the rest of us are not able to see?

 

[Oseas3]

Are you saying Mary gave birth to Michael, who became incarnate? (Rev. 12:2)

No, as I have said the mother of JESUS died and was buried in sepulchre and she is waiting her resurrection.
What you are saying is tares sowed by the followers of Devil.

And it is actually Michael, not Jesus, who rules all nations? (Rev. 12:5)

Michael will make War against the idolater and blasphemer Beast of 7 heads, and 10 horns, and against the red Dragon, the Beast like a lamb, but speak as Dragon, actually a false lamb, a false messiah of the Jews, an esoterical/spiritist/kabbalistic false messiah, called Eliyahu, by the way, he is the man of sin, the son of perdition, Who will opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God in Jerusalem, shewing himself that he is God.

The false messiah or false prophet will make great signs and wonders of lie before the Beast of sea, this Man-Beast leads and guides the Roman Catholic Church, the Great Whore, which rides upon the Pope/Papacy.

These two Beasts will make a deal to establish a world Empire, the Antichrist's Empire, but both will be cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Walpole]

No, as I have said the mother of JESUS died and was buried in sepulchre and she is waiting her resurrection.
What you are saying is tares sowed by the followers of Devil.

I visited her sepulcher. Her body was not there.

If the Devil made her appear to St. John in the Apocalypse, did the Devil also make Moses and Elijah appear to Peter, John and James on Mt. Tabor?

Michael will make War against the idolater and blasphemer Beast of 7 heads, and 10 horns, and against the red Dragon, the Beast like a lamb, but speak as Dragon, actually a false lamb, a false messiah of the Jews, an esoterical/spiritist/kabbalistic false messiah, called Eliyahu, by the way, he is the man of sin, the son of perdition, Who will opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God in Jerusalem, shewing himself that he is God.

The false messiah or false prophet will make great signs and wonders of lie before the Beast of sea, this Man-Beast leads and guides the Roman Catholic Church, the Great Whore, which rides upon the Pope/Papacy.

These two Beasts will make a deal to establish a world Empire, the Antichrist's Empire, but both will be cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.

So Michael was born of the woman John saw in the Apocalypse (your previous assertion), and then Michael makes war with a beast who leads and guides the Roman Catholic Church and who rides on the papacy? You have quite the imagination.

All this fantasy still doesn't answer my question though. Maybe third time is a charm...

---> What criteria does one use to discern if an apparition is genuine, like the one experienced by Sts. Stephen, Paul and John, versus a devilish disguised one made by the Satan via the Roman Catholic Church?

 

[Oseas3]

Mary can appear to St. John the same way Moses and Elijah appeared to Sts. Peter, John and James: By the power of God.

That is a lie spread by the Devil, the father of lie. Mary is died yet and waits her resurrection of this seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day. You are like the spiritists which invoke the deads and Satan take posses of one of them and speaks as such as the deceased, that is the same voice of the defunct, and you invoke the deads with your fake Christianity, condemned by the Word of God´Isaiah 8:v.19-22. What you say, you say by the spirit of Devil, this is an evidence you prefer to be a follower of Devil, the father of lie. John 8:v.44

 

[Walpole]

That is a lie spread by the Devil, the father of lie. Mary is died yet and waits her resurrection of this seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day. You are like the spiritists which invoke the deads and Satan take posses of one of them and speaks as such as the deceased, that is the same voice of the defunct, and you invoke the deads with your fake Christianity, condemned by the Word of God´Isaiah 8:v.19-22. What you say, you say by the spirit of Devil, this is an evidence you prefer to be a follower of Devil, the father of lie. John 8:v.44

Did the Devil also make Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus, Peter, John and James on Mt. Tabor?

 

[Oseas3]

If the Devil made her appear to St. John in the Apocalypse, did the Devil also make Moses and Elijah appear to Peter, John and James on Mt. Tabor?

Mary did not made nothing you are saying by the spirit of Devil, and John did see and is written in Apocalypse was showed by the Lord JESUS unto his servants, not to the servants of Devil, as is written: Rev. 1:1 - The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel (not Mary within the sepulchre) unto his servant John: ,

 

[Walpole]

Mary did not made nothing you are saying by the spirit of Devil, and John did see and is written in Apocalypse was showed by the Lord JESUS unto his servants, not to the servants of Devil, as is written: Rev. 1:1 - The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel (not Mary within the sepulchre) unto his servant John: ,

I'm just not following you. Please try to answer my questions.

1. Did the Devil also make Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus, Peter, John and James on Mt. Tabor?

2. What criteria does one use to discern if an apparition is genuine, like the one experienced by Sts. Stephen, Paul and John, versus a devilish disguised one made by the Satan via the Roman Catholic Church?

 

[Oseas3]

Mary can appear to St. John the same way Moses and Elijah appeared to Sts. Peter, John and James: By the power of God.

No, Mary did not appear unto any, nor can do that because she is died, your hipocrite religion invokes and worships Mary by the spirit of Devil, the father of all kind of idolatries and witcheries spread by your satanic religion, which will be burned with everlasting FIRE. The everlasting Spirit of my God is a devouring FIRE. Hebrews 12:v.29

 

[Oseas3]

I visited her sepulcher. Her body was not there.

If the Devil made her appear to St. John in the Apocalypse, did the Devil also make Moses and Elijah appear to Peter, John and James on Mt. Tabor?






So Michael was born of the woman John saw in the Apocalypse (your previous assertion), and then Michael makes war with a beast who leads and guides the Roman Catholic Church and who rides on the papacy? You have quite the imagination.

All this fantasy still doesn't answer my question though. Maybe third time is a charm...

---> What criteria does one use to discern if an apparition is genuine, like the one experienced by Sts. Stephen, Paul and John, versus a devilish disguised one made by the Satan via the Roman Catholic Church?

Did not you understand yet? I will try to clarify through another words.

See, how may someone dead and buried in the tomb appear to you? Yeah, how? Never, but never. Will be you do not understand that JESUS died and was buried in sepulchre, and He only appeared after His resurrection?

Not only He was seen after His resurrection, but when JESUS died on the cross having cried with a loud voice, yielded up the spirit, and behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after the resurrection, and went into the holy city, and they appeared unto many.

That said I ask: How may Mary appears unto any after she died and her body being buried in a sepulchre until today? Yeah, how??? That never happens, never, but never.

The mother of JESUS did not resurrect yet and is waiting her resurrection in this seventh and last Day. I call also the apostles of the Lord, all them died, were buried in sepulchres, and they are waiting their ressurection that will happen now in this seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium. Hallelujaaaa!!!

1 Cor.15:v.1-8KJV
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

 

[Oseas3]

1. Did the Devil also make Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus, Peter, John and James on Mt. Tabor?

You are saying that. Satan has nothing to do with the Word of God, but with the ancient and blasphemer and religious MONSTER with 7 heads and 10 horns and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy, the satanic blasphemy as Vicarius Filii Dei; but actually is Vicarius Filli Satana. The 7 heads are 7 mountains, by allegory, they are Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania(Australia), North America, Center America and South America.

But the 7 heads are also a lineage of Popes, called or nicknamed Paulus, only the last of this satanic lineage does not manifest yet, that is the seventh and last Pope. They all will be cast into the lake of fire for ever and ever. Rev. 19:v.19-21.

 

[Walpole]

Did not you understand yet? I will try to clarify through another words.

See, how may someone dead and buried in the tomb appear to you? Yeah, how? Never, but never. Will be you do not understand that JESUS died and was buried in sepulchre, and He only appeared after His resurrection?

Not only He was seen after His resurrection, but when JESUS died on the cross having cried with a loud voice, yielded up the spirit, and behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after the resurrection, and went into the holy city, and they appeared unto many.

That said I ask: How may Mary appears unto any after she died and her body being buried in a sepulchre until today? Yeah, how??? That never happens, never, but never.

The mother of JESUS did not resurrect yet and is waiting her resurrection in this seventh and last Day. I call also the apostles of the Lord, all them died, were buried in sepulchres, and they are waiting their ressurection that will happen now in this seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium. Hallelujaaaa!!!

1 Cor.15:v.1-8KJV
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

No, I still do not understand.

1. The majority of the world’s Christians believe Mary was assumed into heaven (like Elijah). John’s vision of her in the Apocalypse is used as evidence to support this belief.

2. Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus, Peter, John and James on Mt. Tabor. Or did this never happen?

You seem to be dodging this, along with the other question I have asked.