On Evolution...

We can only go by what God has told us. I choose to not declare what God has done or not done when He has not given us any information about it. Instead, I know He tells us that He created. I proclaim what I know, not what I don't know.

 

non living cannot produce life!

 

I have stated that science falls under the umbrella of philosophy. Science is a method of observation and replication. It cannot measure something that is outside of Creation, therefore it cannot measure God. This is where philosophy falls over the top of science. It answers that which science cannot answer.
Peter Kreeft, a Christian philosopher, has provided 20 arguments for God, that may guide the person who doubts the existence of God.
Twenty Arguments God's Existence by Peter Kreeft (& Ronald K. Tacelli)

 

Since life exists, God must also exist, as it cannot have come into being apart from Him!

 

But of course! It was the early days of modern science that demonstrated this.

Louis Pasteur about 160 years ago, conducted experiments that disproved

spontaneous generation.
Until that time spontaneous generation was widely accepted, and had been for millennia.

Rob​

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Amen, but Adam's daughters married and produced children with the sons of God (prehistoric man) on Adam's Earth "and also after that" on the present Earth. Genesis 6:4 This changed the sons of God into Humans because they had inherited Adam's superior intelligence, which is like God's. Genesis 3:22

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, (Hebrew-Adam) and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The giants are giants intellectually since they became Humans (descendants of Adam) AFTER their Human parent married one of the sons of God. Cain did it on Adam's Earth and Noah's grandsons, having NO other Humans to marry, did the SAME thing on the present Earth. Genesis 10:8 Today's Humans are the "giants" and have the superior intelligence of Adam. It's the ONLY way to become Human since no amount of mindless time nor zillions of mutations can place God's intelligence into the brains of Apes. That's God's Truth Scripturally, scientifically, historically, genetically and mathematically.

 

False, since my interpretation agrees with every other discovered Truth of mankind and NO one can refute it because it was written by the Spirit of Truth. Evolution is an incomplete false assumption since it's promoters forgot about the flood leaving NO way for the sons of God to become Humans. (descendants of Adam).

 

The abiogenesis of KS, and all atheistic evolutionists, is precisely that, spontaneous generation, or else the case presented thus far is as clear as primordial mud.

 

Many would hold that those sons of god, men of reknown and giants were result of mingling between fallen angels and mortal women though, as there were no other humans here other than Adam and Eve....

 

sons of god would be fallen angels, not so call prehistoric humans, as no such thing existed before Adam and eve...

 

Look at it this way:

1) You believe that abiogenesis does not occur.
And yet,
2) You believe God created out of nothing.

These beliefs conflict...

You believe that abiogenesis has occurred at least once... and God did it.

Scientists are merely attempting to explore how it might have occurred... how did God do it?

Nothing atheistic about it.

Rob

 

God alone can create life, so its just the same as him speaking forth the Universe to happen, that would both be things science cannot address, as they would be things done by supernatural means by a supernatural Being!

 

UnScriptural, since the Angels, which left their first estate are held in chains until Judgment:

2Pe 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Angels don't have sex:

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

The sons of God (prehistoric people) did. Genesis 6:4

 

Then you are left with a problem since Cain and Noah's grandsons had NO other Humans to marry. They married and produced children with the sons of God on Adam's Earth AND on the present Earth. Genesis 6:4 That's God's Truth

 

Fallen angels would have possessed the flesh of men who order to have relationship with women!

 

Look Yeshua1, (sigh) you've really got to begin reading with comprehension before you post your questions. Try to understand the argument another person is making... not only here but on all the threads you post on.

KeyserS already addressed this...

Something along these lines has been mentioned in previous threads.

Old-Earth creationists and evolutionary creationists note their awesome wonder observing God's handiwork in creation.

Rob​

 

Rob, you may have me confused with someone else. There is no conflict in my beliefs. Where did I say God created life out of nothing? The Bible does not say that, nor do I.

My contention is only that anyone claiming there was no intelligent design involved in their abiogenesis has yet to make their case. The hostile environment, the infusion of information, the orchestration required, point to what atheists deny, that God must have done it.

But you have piqued my curiosity. Just how many atheistic scientists are actively wondering how God did it? That sounds like a real conflict of belief.

 

My poor paraphrase of Hebrews 11:3

"By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible." ​

Does it really matter what the philosophical beliefs of a scientist are?
In my quote of Paul earlier in the thread (Acts 17), he was able to see God's influence even among the polytheistic philosophers of his times.
We can see God through the frames great scientists imagine.

Keep the good, throw out the bad.

Rob​

 

This might be a good question for a separate thread.

My observation is that, though it shouldn't, the reality is that it does, often very much so. But not just because of science, but because of philosophy and theology. Much can and has been suppressed, forced, or shaped by scientists, because of philosophical beliefs. We see it frequently in debate and in education.

But I'm sure you are quite aware of this, just as you are aware that many atheists imagine science leads them to not believe in God. And of course this matters most of all when it comes to their eternal souls.