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Featured How many of the Spirit Gifts still operating, and are they anyApostles/prophets today?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, Feb 11, 2020.

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  1. JonShaff

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    Yes we do, the Bible Clearly teaches us we do.

    Ephesians 4:11-16

    They will continue until...(Christ returns)

    They are necessary for every place the Gospel of Christ goes forth; for every new work the Lord starts and establishes.

    JESUS is the The complete "Five Fold" and He is the Apostle of our Faith, The Prophet of God, who still works in His people. If apostle and prophet cease, then you are saying Christ ceases to work through His people.
     
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    Reynolds I'm just alerting you to my post #99 in this thread. I think that things are being read into the text that aren't there in this discussion. Something you seem to have caught on to.
     
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    Paul states that all that is needed for us today are the scriptures, correct?
     
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    the Latin word Missio and Greek Apostolos are "sent ones" (envoys; messengers). Yes bro, Missionaries are apostles and apostles are missionaries. Think about what modern day missionaries do.

    Go to an area with no or limited Gospel access.
    Preach the Word
    Gather the (new) church
    Raise up leaders to mature the Church
    Go to the next area with limited Gospel Access.
    That's the Work of an Apostle/Missionary.
     
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    Paul teaches that the gifts will continue, unless you want to start ripping out pages of Scripture?
     
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    Paul doesn't claim to be the last apostle here, he claims to be the last one to see the Resurrected Christ (as context is proving the Resurrection of our Lord). Your claim is off base.
     
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    There is no other?
    What about Timothy, Silas, Titus? All apostles that ministered to the Gentile Churches.
     
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    Correct, you need Called apostles to go to places FIRST--Adoniram Judson, the apostle to the Burmese.
     
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    not all of the gifts are for today! Especially the so called signs and wonders gifts!
     
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    I've enjoyed engaging with you, but i think this is as far as the convo will go. Ephesians 4:11-16 clearly teaches that God will continue to raise people up to further the Kingdom of God, as he equips and matures His people. I can't make you see that. Have a good one bro.
     
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    everything in scriptures were inspired, but not all directly apply to us!
     
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    he was the last Apostle commissioned by Christ, as he was the real replacement for judas among the 12!
     
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    not inspired though as paul was by God directly, to do signs and wonders, and to record scriptures for us down!
     
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    yes, apostle as we redefine that for today!
     
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    God will not add to scriptures, nor give forth any additional revelations!
     
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    If you wrote scripture then you are an "A". If not, you are an "a"?

    What scripture you base that on?
     
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    Scripture?
     
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    Jesus ONLY inspired his 12 Apostles, and Paul as the last One called and Commissioned by Him!
     
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    there is no more need, as they were used by God to validate the person and Ministry and Work of Jesus Christ!
     
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    Mathias was not "inspired"?
    Again, SCRIPTURE?
     
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