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Featured Reformers' interpretations of the AntiChrist

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Hobie, Feb 21, 2020.

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  1. MarysSon

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    In other words - you have NO answer.

    That's what I thought . . .
     
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    they were wrong on their views that you listed for Mary, as none of them were from scripture, but their views on Pauline justification is from the scripture!
     
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    So - they were FALSE teachers.

    Why would you follow a FALSE teacher when Matt. 7:15-20 warns us NOT to??
     
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    they were wrong on something that was wrong to start with, namely the RCC take on Mary!
     
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    If your Protestant Fathers were "wrong" about ANYTHING - then they are false teachers.
    That's my whole point.

    Why would you follow a FALSE teacher?
     
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    ALL except for the Apostles of Jesus have held to some form of non blblical theology!
     
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    Since you're a Sola Scripturist - can you show me where Scripture makes this claim??

    If your church teaches ONE false teaching - then it is a FALSE church.
    If your Protestant Fathers taught ONE false teaching - then they were FALSE teachers.
     
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    Again, their teachings concerning marry herself were false, Just as the RCC view on her is!
     
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    Why do you keep dodging the issue??
    We already went over this.

    Back in #33, YOU stated:
    "The reformers never held mary in same regard as Rome did!"

    I proved you wrong about that by showing you their quotes about Mary.
    THEN you
    , a Sola Scripturist, made the following claim:
    "ALL except for the Apostles of Jesus have held to some form of non blblical theology!"

    I asked you to show me where SCRIPTURE makes this claim because MY Bible says that Christ's Church is:
    - The pillar and foundation of TRUTH (1 Tim. 3:15)
    - The FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23)

    YOU
    admitted that your Protestant Father taught error regarding Mary.
    HOW could the pillar and foundation of truth and the fullness of Christ teach error??
     
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    Do you hold to Pauline Justification?
     
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    I hold as Christ's Church has always taught:
    That we are justified by faith.

    HOWEVER - "Faith" must be properly understood.
    Faith is NOT simply belief. James 2:19 assures us that even the DEMONS believe in the truths about God - but are not justified. James goes on to describe what REAL faith is (James 2:14-26). Paul also describes faith is a Christian virtue that is actually TOPPED by Love (1 Cor. 1-13) - and states that true faith can only work through love (Gal. 5:6).

    True faith is complete surrender, which incorporates belief AND works (obedience).

    By the way - you STILL haven't answered my question . . .
     
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    How complete is complete?
     
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    I'll answer that when you stop running an finally answer MY question:

    YOU admitted that your Protestant Father taught error regarding Mary.
    HOW could the pillar and foundation of truth and the fullness of Christ teach error??
     
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    because unlike how you view the RCC as being "infallible interpreter of the scriptures", we hold no one in that regard, as its the very scriptures themselves and only that are infallible!
     
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    This is PRECISELY the problem.

    When you have 100 different pastors with 100 different interpretations of a verse - you will get 100 different variations of doctrine.
    Do you believe that they are ALL led by the Holy Spirit to this confusion??

    OR, do you believe in the words of Christ, who said that the Holy Spirit would guide HIS Church to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15)??
     
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    I hold to the real Gospel of Jesus, while Rome does not!
     
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    Really?

    Which of the tens of thousands of Protestant versions of the Gospel do YOU hold to??
     
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    The Pauline justification view of the Gospel, the view that Rome rejected!
     
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    "Rejected"??
    OR
    , simply doesn't define it the way YOU do?

    I already explained that the Catholic Church teaches that justification is by faith.
     
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    AND sacramental grace, and intercession of saints and Mary, and Mass, and purgatory!
     
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