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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Mar 7, 2020.

  1. 37818

    37818 Well-Known Member

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    That would mean not begotten to be the second distinct Person of the Trinity who became the Son of God as the Messiah.
     
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    One Being, in 3 distinct persons!
     
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    Now I believe that presonally based on Him being "the unique Son" according to that being the original reading of John 1:18 as the word of God.
     
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    yes it did just not sure of the actors.
     
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    Not if He was "unique God" according to John 1:18.
     
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    no it it is not a game it is true.
     
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    There is only One God,so all 3 are "unique God"
     
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    OK still the differences are there because they indeed misquoted scripture.
     
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    Then cite a primary source.
     
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    on the contrary my translation clears the matter.

    Hebrews 1:3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.
     
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    You have provided no analysis of the text.
     
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    you can do that.
     
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    No reason since there is no evidence to believe it.
     
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    suit yourself.
     
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    "In the following years the political foes continue to struggle and finally the Arians misused their power and were overthrown. The religious/political controversy caused widespread bloodshed and killing. In 381 AD, Emperor Theodosius (a Trinitarian) convened a council in Constantinople. Only Trinitarian bishops were invited to attend. 150 bishops attended and voted to alter the Nicene creed to include the Holy Spirit as a part of the Godhead. The Trinity doctrine was now official for both the church and the state.

    Dissident bishops were expelled from the church, and excommunicated.

    THE ATHANASIUS CREED COMPLETES THE TRIUNE GODHEAD
    The Athanasius (Trinitarian) Creed was finally established in (probably) the 5th century. It was not written by Athanasius but adopted his name. It stated in part:
    "We worship one God in Trinity . . . The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God; and yet they are not three gods, but one God."
    By the 9th century the creed was established in Spain, France and Germany. It had taken centuries from the time of Christ for the trinity doctrine to catch on. Government and church politics were the reasons the trinity came into existence and became church orthodoxy.

    As you have seen, the Trinitarian doctrine came from deceit, politics, a pagan emperor and warring factions who brought about death and bloodshed."


    "The Trinity Doctrine/Dogma Exposed"
     
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    First that is not a primary source. Primary sources "are immediate, first-hand accounts of a topic, from people who had a direct connection with it. Second, no qualified historians of any kind are cited. Third, in fact no sources are named in order to check the veracity of the claims.

    Only Robert G. Ingersoll is quoted and his quote is irrelevant to your claim.

    That sites offers nothing that can support your claim. I will see what I can find on the matter when I have time.
     
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    it might have taken 500 years to officially be codified, but the trinity was being spoken about in the Bible itself!
     
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    Saying what I prefer to be true does not make it true. You have provided no real evidence of that popular belief being the truth.
     
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    is it due mainly to the only begotten aspect?
     
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