Featured Do we hacve fallen sin natures or not now?

Yes is my answer. God made the man of flesh, gave him law, thou shall not eat, which sold him under sin for the very purpose of redemption (from death) and adoption (to life).

See my previous post.

 

" Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:" ( Romans 5:12 ).

" For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." ( Romans 5:19 )

What is the "death" spoken of here?
How were we "made" sinners?


" And you [hath he quickened], who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." ( Ephesians 2:1-3 ).

Is "death" not being "dead in trespasses and sins", walking "according to the course of this world", and according to the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience?
According to the "lusts of our flesh and fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind" by nature?

If so, then how do you conclude that all men did not inherit a problem that was passed down generation to generation?

Questions:

According to the Bible, do we as men sin naturally, or unnaturally?
Are we born into it ( Psalms 51:5, Psalms 58:3, etc ), or do we all just stumble into the same rut like lemmings?

Is sin a problem of the heart ( Matthew 15:18-20 ), or simply of circumstances or of environment?

 

Some added explanation to my babble in my reply #79.

According to Eph. 2:3 there is something non-physical in fallen mankind that lusts after the desires of the flesh and mind which is referred to as nature of mankind ( ---"were by NATURE the children of wrath," --- ) which I refer to as the evil pole of our bipolar ( good and evil ) fallen nature. Also in Rom. 2:14 the Gentiles "do by NATURE the things contained in the law" which I refer to as the good pole of our bipolar ( good and evil ) fallen nature.

The majority of theologians that I have read refer to this nature as being sinful or evil ( a single poled nature of evil ).

 

Yeshua1, do you hold to Calvinist soteriology, since you believe nothing good comes out of an unsaved person's heart/will.

 

Yeshua1, If nothing good can come out of an unsaved person's heart/will, how can a unsaved person of his own free will do the good thing of accepting/believing in Jesus as his perfect sacrifice for his sins?

 

Nobody is concerned about the bogeyman lie that is the slander of "Pelagianism".
That's overplayed.
Taking all available evidence, I'd say there is about a 200% higher likelihood that Pelagius was saved than the evil and slanderous Gnostic Augustine.

Nobody is actually "Pelagian" though....including Pelagius.

 

Pelagius never believed that and it is provably false that he believed it.

And it is also wrong.
Calvinist Theologians have believed that lie from Augustine and taught it, and now some believe it.
It is not true.

Thus, the bogeyman slander of "Pelagianism" is a meaningless and ignorant slander.
https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Pelagia...2&sprefix=the+myth+of+pelagian,aps,240&sr=8-1