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it's in the next article (Article V)

 

While there are lots of things to nitpick in articles 4 and 5, did anyone see a significant flaw?

Nits:

1) "Whole man" apparently refers to the fact both our spirit and body are redeemed.
2) There is no salvation apart from God crediting our faith in Jesus Christ as Lord.
3) Regeneration occurs after God credits our faith and places us into Christ. Faith before regeneration.
4) "Commitment of the entire personality to Him" should read "commitment of our entire personality to Him."
5) Justification occurs after God credits our faith and puts us into Christ where we undergo the washing of regeneration.
6) Sanctification initially refers to God setting a person apart in Christ (the sanctification by the Spirit) and subsequently refers to our progressive sanctification where we are conformed to the image of Christ.
7) We are first glorified spiritually as a new creation in Christ, and will be glorified physically at our bodily redemption, so glorification is a two step process.

 

Where does the word of God teach this?

 

How do you understand the teaching known as eternal security? What is the essence of the teaching?

 

How is it secure?

why is it secure?

what are two or three sections of scripture that we can offer to someone who has doubts?

 

1 Thessalonians 4:1-8 is one place where scripture presents how we are to live after being born anew. Colossians 3:10 presents us (recently reborn) as being "renewed" or renovated according to our recognition of our creator's (as a new creation) image. Another reference to progressive sanctification (maturing in Christ) is Philippians 3:12. Here Paul says he has not reached perfection yet, but is pressing on toward that goal which is a righteousness like Christ's.

 

Still have the stages in salvation process wrong!

 

Yet another "taint so" post, with no statement as to the "right" stages of salvation.
Nits in articles 4 & 5 of the BF&M.
1) "Whole man" apparently refers to the fact both our spirit and body are redeemed.
2) There is no salvation apart from God crediting our faith in Jesus Christ as Lord.
3) Regeneration occurs after God credits our faith and places us into Christ. Faith before regeneration.
4) "Commitment of the entire personality to Him" should read "commitment of our entire personality to Him."
5) Justification occurs after God credits our faith and puts us into Christ where we undergo the washing of regeneration.
6) Sanctification initially refers to God setting a person apart in Christ (the sanctification by the Spirit) and subsequently refers to our progressive sanctification where we are conformed to the image of Christ.
7) We are first glorified spiritually as a new creation in Christ, and will be glorified physically at our bodily redemption, so glorification is a two step process

 

What do you mean in last point?

 

I find it ironic that some fellow Baptists decry using Confessions, and then have one right here they like to use!

 

7) We are first glorified spiritually as a new creation in Christ, and will be glorified physically at our bodily redemption, so glorification is a two step process. Romans 8:30 refers to those spiritually born anew as having already been, past tense, gloried. That is step one, our spiritual glorification. 2 Thessalonians 1:12 teaches we were "glorified" when God spiritually put us in Christ. Now step two will occur in the future, at the Second Coming when we are bodily redeemed. This is where our mortal body puts on immortality, 1 Corinthians 15:53. See Philippians 3:20-21 for a specific reference to our future glorification at Christ's return.

 

What do you mean by "spiritual glorification?"

 

God spiritually placing our spirit in Christ and sealing us in Christ with the Spirit of Christ. Because we are in Christ and Christ is in us, we are spiritually glorified. Romans 8:30

 

That terminology not in scripture, as glorification refers to jsut physical resurrection!

 

Utterly false assertion, yet another taint so post. Romans 8:30 folks refers to the past tense fact we have been glorified. Thus not physical. Y1 is yet again just blowing smoke to derail discussion of scriptural doctrine.

1 "Whole man" apparently refers to the fact both our spirit and body are redeemed.
2) There is no salvation apart from God crediting our faith in Jesus Christ as Lord.
3) Regeneration occurs after God credits our faith and places us into Christ. Faith before regeneration.
4) "Commitment of the entire personality to Him" should read "commitment of our entire personality to Him."
5) Justification occurs after God credits our faith and puts us into Christ where we undergo the washing of regeneration.
6) Sanctification initially refers to God setting a person apart in Christ (the sanctification by the Spirit) and subsequently refers to our progressive sanctification where we are conformed to the image of Christ.
7) We are first glorified spiritually as a new creation in Christ, and will be glorified physically at our bodily redemption, so glorification is a two step process Romans 8:30, Philippians 3:20-21