Featured SDA: Cult of Fear-Mongers

Seventh-day Adventist doctrine (Isa. 8:20) does not anywhere teach Justification by Law (any law). We teach (as said so many times I lost count):

Isa_45:25 In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.​

Anything else is simply citing 'you'.

 

Speaking of fear, after going through the monologue that is this thread of yours, I can state with certainty that I do not fear the Investigative Judgment, as I know what God will find already, but you on the other hand, desire to escape this searching of God, and fear what God already knows is there.

 

I see the words "cult" and "heresy" flung around a lot on this forum. Is that a characteristic of conservative Baptists on here? If so, it doesn't seem to fit with Baptist principles.

 

Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Yes, the text perfectly agrees with the IJ. What is your issue with John 5:24 and the IJ? Those who are in Christ Jesus during the IJ do not come into condemnation and have life as they "heareth ... and believeth". The text says nothing about not being judged when becoming a Christian. Secondly, those who merely professed to be in Christ Jesus (Lord, Lord; Matthew 7:22, the 'form of Godliness', 2 Timothy 3:5), and found wanting (Daniel 5:27; Matthew 22:11-12, etc) come into condemnation.

I already addressed this text specifically, here -

[1] "Private Interpretation"

[2] "Private Interpretation"​

Feel free to DL it in full here and share it all over - http://sdamaranathachurch.org/wp-co...le-Contradictions-from-Ellen-G.-White-SDA.pdf

Your issue seems to be the final point made in the response, in that you believe in the erroneous doctrine of OSAS. If you do believe such, you will always hold the position you do, and reject the scriptural doctrine (IJ) for an unscriptural one (OSAS). They are exclusive to each other. And as such, it is your issue to deal with and not mine. You have been shown on numerous occasions about the errors and unsustainability of OSAS from scripture, and even Love itself.

 

Not so (bolded underlined part). Forgiven sins are "covered", until they are "blotted out" (just before He comes again; Acts 3:19-20, etc). This too was shown you on several occasions. What do you do with the information shared with you?

Sins are not blotted out at Calvary (Passover).

Sins (forgiven) are "covered" by the blood at Calvary (Passover, see the type in Exodus), and yet still remain on record in Heaven. (Psalms 109:14; Nehemiah 4:5; Jeremiah 18:23, etc)

Sins are "blotted out" at the end, just before He comes (Day of Atonement), see Leviticus 16 and 23. See Daniel, Hebrews and Revelation.

 

God has given to the Son all those who "believeth".

As for the gift toward us (Jesus Christ), any gift, can be lost through unbelief (whatsoever is not of faith is sin) - see King Saul (OT) and Ananias and Sapphira (NT). The Bible (KJB) does not teach OSAS, as much as you would like it to. This is separate from Biblical "assurance". OSAS is actually rape, and violates all the relationship of love.

Paul states as much in Romans 8, and leaves the only possibility of ourselves as that which may separate from God.

 

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Eph 1:14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Yes, the texts Ephesians 1:13-14 agree with and are in harmony with the IJ, but not OSAS. The Holy Ghost does the sealing, but is not the seal. Also notice the words, "promise" (which means you do not have the fullness thereof) and also the "earnest" (a down payment, the first part, not the whole). See also 2 Corinthians 1:22, 5:5. Connect to 2 Corinthians 1:20, in that all the promises are Yea and Amen in Christ Jesus. Therefore, a person must be found in Him, not outside of Him, and that is where "faith" and "believeth" enter the picture. None of these texts teach that once a person receives the "earnest" of the "promise" that they cannot refuse and reject it later (grieving away the Holy Ghost, as King Saul, as Ananias and Sapphira), as Paul warns most strongly about being a castaway (context of the immortal crown not yet had), and found being a reprobate (Hebrews 6:3-8). A branch plucked from the fire can also go back into the fire (not that this is what God desires).

This teaching is found from Genesis to Revelation, and in the Sanctuary (Psalms 77:13), in that a sinner could be forgiven their sins through bringing the sacrifice as allowed in each day of the year (Leviticus 4), but in the Day of Atonement, if they were not right with God still, they would be cut off (Leviticus 16 & 23), and it didn't matter how many sacrifices they brought before that point, or how many times they were forgiven. If they were not right with God, all was revoked (Matthew 18).

 

The Sda claims that she had the EXACT same inspiration in regards to her books regarding how to understand bible theology as the OT prophets and NT Apostles!
If you were to see that the Sabbath is not for the Church per the Bible, you still must agree to what EW stated in regards to Sabbath to stay a Sda!

 

Jesus stated that we already passed from death to life, and paul stated that NOW there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, and Jesus stated that NONE of His shall ever get lost!

I trust in the sure word of scripture. not the false teachings of EW!

 

The Holy Spirt is THE SEAl of those who are now saved in Christ, and there will be many who have kept the Sabbath day, and yet Jesus will say to them "I never knew you"

 

The Holy Ghost inspires people. Same inspirer.

Was Moses inspired of the Holy Ghost?

Was Daniel inspired of the Holy Ghost?

Was John the Baptist inspired of the Holy Ghost?

Was Deborah inspired of the Holy Ghost?

Was David inspired of the Holy Ghost? Was he as inspired as Moses?

Was Paul inspired of the Holy Ghost? Was he as inspired as Daniel?

Was Agabus inspired of the Holy Ghost? Was he as inspired as Paul?

When George Wishart gave a prophecy in his death, was he inspired of the Holy Ghost?

 

No. He is the sealer, not the seal:

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.​

You wrongly read the other passages.

 

O ~ I can think of a name. That name is Calvin. You are more of a Calvinist than a Baptist. Not all Baptist are Calvinist (praise the Lord).

 

The Holy Spirit stopped inspiration when Apostle john died!

 

Calvin NEVER stated that his teachings were the infallible and inspired guide to understanding scriptures, but EW did!

 

Just ~ wow.

Please show me in the mouth of two or three witnesses from scripture why you think that is.

 

Did you ever read his own recantation in "To Those In Doubting Castle" (By D M Canright), for you may read it here (The Man Who Boarded The Phantom Ship) -

Doctrine – Critics – Andrews University – Ellen White Answers To Critics And D M Canright (PDF)

Doctrine – Critics – Francis D Nichol – Answers To Objections Of SDA Theology And D M Canright (PDF)

Doctrine – Critics – G I Butler – Replies to Elder D M Canright’s Attacks On Seventh-day Adventists (PDF)

Doctrine – Critics – Uriah Smith – Replies To D M Canright (PDF)

Doctrine – Critics – Vance Ferrell – The Man Who Boarded The Phantom Ship – D M Canright (PDF)

Doctrine – Critics – William H Branson – In Defense Of The Faith A Reply To D M Canright 1933 (PDF)

Even the Baptists that he associated himself with began to distance themselves from him. Do you know how he died?

 

Brush up on your Calvin!

"Next come Pastors and Teachers, with whom the Church never can dispense, and between whom, I think, there is this difference, that teachers preside not over discipline, or the administration of the sacraments, or admonitions, or exhortations, but the interpretation of Scripture only, in order that pure and sound doctrine may be maintained among believers. But all these are embraced in the pastoral office." - Calvin, Institutes, 4.3.4