Featured Predestination

I am not a General Baptist, but two common answers from that side of the argument:

1. “Foreknew” means an omniscient God looking down the corridor of time to see who will ultimately freely decide to accept His offer.
2. This section of Romans is not outlining a plan of “individual” salvation (the salvation of each specific person yet to be born), but rather God is outlining a “roadway” to glorification found in Christ. In other words, God Foreknew that some people would believe, so they (collectively) are foreknown and predestined in Christ. All are called and some will respond in Christ, and those that respond will be justified and glorified in Christ. God planned the path to Glorification in Christ from the beginning, knowing that some would follow and many would not, but the path was prepared in Christ for those that would follow.

 

called to what ?

 

There's 2 callings in the bible . The Gospel call and the call to service . No one is ' called to be saved . There's no such thing as Previeniant grace nor ' an inward ' or ' effectual call ' particular call ' General call ' or phone call in the bible .

 

predestined to be conformed and The Adoption do not happen until Glorification. simple . Both Calvernism and Arminism mess this up because they accept total inability .

 

How do you account for the fact your not yet glorified ?

 

Foreknew as in ' looking down the corridor of time ' is unbiblical as is the calvernist version . Notice in Galatians when we are known by God ( foreknown from God's perspective, intimately )
8¶Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
9But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
This is clearly AFTER we believe
And this clears up the issue when Jesus tells many that " I never KNEW you " mathew 7

 

When we believe AFTER we then receive the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. Also AFTER we Believe we are Predestined to future Adoption / to be conformed to His image . We are not Adopted when we believe nor conformed to HIS image .

 

Basically Romans 8 is about saved people that need not despair inspite of suffering because they are Predestined to future ( guarenteed ) Glorification. It is to individuals . Thats why it ends with NOTHING can separate .

 

Those he called to service , He also justified. The assumption is the ' called ' somehow means ' effectual irresistible call ' which is no where to found in the bible .

 

Yes I agree . We know from other places that this is the case .

 

If I proclaim the gospel in Times Square and 1000 people hear it, were they all “called” or not? If not, then in what way were they not called?

In the parable of the Sower, the seed was scattered on all of the soils ... even those where it had no chance of growing.

 

There is no such word as “calvernist”. The word you are looking for is Calvinist.

 

You just wrote it ?

 

OK Mr spell check

 

Except for John 6:44 where those DRAWN (which does mean irresistible) are also RAISED by Christ on the last day.