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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Barry Johnson, Jul 10, 2020.

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  1. Barry Johnson

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    The Gospel is not : Endure to the end; Working out through fear and trembling ; obedience; running a race or a prize; A hope ; Works ; Not sinning ; repenting of sins ; Perseverance; Election ; John 6 ; Fruit bearing ; abiding ; baptism in water .
     
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    What is the point?
     
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    Exactly .lol
     
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    My point was , most Christians do not know what the Gospel is .
     
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    Are you saying repentance is not required?

    Thats a pretty convoluted OP
     
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    I meant that none of the above are required to be saved .
     
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    To be saved? No. To be obedient to our Lord? Yes to almost all.

    peace to you
     
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    Well?

    Orange you gonna tells us?
     
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    I'm not convinced you know what it is. The Gospel is the good news that Christ died for us, and if we believe in him, we'll be sealed with the Holy Spirit. The Spirit in us will achieve all those things you listed. They are not the cause of our salvation, but the result of it. They are also evidence we are truly saved.

    If your attitude is, what's the point of living godly? you're likely not a child of God yet.
     
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    So do we need to do any of the above to be saved ? if so what is the things we need to do ?
    Even if the Holy Spirt does the work to help , do we need to do the above to be or stay saved ?
     
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    But not to be saved ,or stay saved ?
     
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    Whats the point in Living Godly ? it depends what you mean . Do you mean to make it to heaven ? to stay saved ? to get saved ?
     
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    It's that little area at the tip of the cone. The top of this: ^.
     
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    Which Gospel?... The Living or the Written?... The Living Gospel is Jesus Christ that saved me by... Blood and water... The written Gospel tells me who did the saving... in Ink and paper, just like Jesus told the Berean brethren, a long time ago.

    John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    Christ saves 100% without the help of any man!... Brother Glen:)
     
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    1 cor 15 . 1-4 .
    And yes God needs no help . The point is about HOW does God save and surely it is his choosing . He clearly has stated that its saving all those who believe the Gospel . Why would you have a problem with how God has chosen to freely save ??
     
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    Really. So many Christians here are just dying to know the Gospel.
     
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    1 cor 15 . 1-4
     
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    Yes, I was a bit slow posting. My reference was to your comment above, which presents a bit of a conundrum.

    Are you somehow suggesting that one can be a Christian and not be saved? What is a Christian if not a disciple of Christ? Can one be a disciple of Christ and not believe in him? If one believes in Christ, isn’t he saved? And is it not the Gospel of Christ that saves?
     
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