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2 Peter 3:4-13 They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.” For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly. But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you,not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed. Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of people ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be set on fire and dissolved, and the heavenly bodies will melt as they burn! But according to his promise we are waiting for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

 

The main advantage to dispensationalism is that it allows Evangelicals & Fundamentalists to avoid having to dodge the Anti-Christ and gets them out of the way of those who are not dispensationalists.

 

These Scriptures Teach The Second Coming of Jesus, in Final Judgment, as Imminent.

Except for the Matthew 24 Scripture which describes, "when shall these things be", i.e., the destruction of the Temple and not one stone left on another.

With that, I have never seen anything relating to anything other than The Second Coming of Jesus, in Final Judgment, as Imminent.

I do not know of any evidence that The Second Coming of Jesus, in Final Judgment, is NOT Imminent and NOT The End of this World, with no more opportunity for anyone to be Saved, forever,

....and I do not know of any evidence that The Second Coming of Jesus, in Final Judgment, is NOT Imminent and NOT The End of this World, with no more opportunity for anyone to be Saved, forever.

 

Oh, yeah, dispensationalism teaches it could be any second.

 

I don't think that is accurate.
I think you have over-generalized dispensationalism.

 

What do you mean?

 

I believe 'dispensationalists' teach a lot of incredible foolishness that is "in the way" of Jesus' Return.

Anyway, here are 66 Scriptures that I see almost every Preacher IGNORE, everyday of their ministry.

Who would lead them to do that?

And say, "oh, there are more books THAT "MIGHT" teach something else".

What?

9.0.0 > NT Intro iv: SIXTY-SIX NEW TESTAMENT Verses Teach The SECOND COMING of JESUS CHRIST & THE END of TIME.

 

Right out of Dallas?

 

Your statement was "Oh, yeah, dispensationalism teaches it could be any second." with "it" being "Second Coming of Jesus, in Final Judgment" from the quote of the post by Alan Gross.

My understanding of the defining characteristics of "Dispensationalism" are seven dispensations (eras) of God's interaction with man:

1. Innocence (pre-Fall)
2. Conscience (Fall–Noah)
3. Government (Noah–Abraham)
4. Promise (Abraham–Moses)
5. Mosaic Law (Moses–Christ)
6. Grace (current age)
7. Millennial Kingdom (1,000 year earthly reign of Christ, yet to come)

For a "pre-tribulation rapture" dispensationalist (the sort most popular in the USA at the moment) the return of Jesus for his saints/Church/bride is imminent, but his judgement must wait until after the great tribulation.
For a "mid-tribulation rapture" dispensationalist the church/saints/bride must endure the first 3.5 years under the "antichrist" before Jesus returns for His people, and Judgement still waits until his second coming, so His return is less "imminent".
For a "post-tribulation rapture" dispensationalist (the most common pre-19th Century) the church/saints/bride must endure the Great Tribulation before Jesus returns for His people and Judgement, so His return is less "imminent".

For dispensationalists that see the "Millennial Kingdom" as fulfillment of the OT promises to Israel, there is a SECOND return Resurrection of the new saints at the end of the 1000 years and THEN comes the final judgement.

So "Dispensationalism" is a BIG TENT with a lot of views that do not easily suffer generalizations.

 

Post-trib is not dispensationalism at all.

What do you mean by imminent?

 

Perhaps not in your world, but post-trib is certainly one view of dispensationalism.

 

...is that what you are doing?...'IGNOREing' those 66 Scriptures?

The misreading, or thinking there could be a 'double-prophecy', in Matthew 24 leads to trying to put it in The End Times.

Folks who read the Revelation like 'narrative', from start to finish, (rather than a scroll of seven contemporaneous Visions) use some Matthew 24 Scriptures, as misreading, or thinking there could be a 'double-prophecy'.

There are no 'double-prophecies', or 'double-interpretations'.

Jesus answers the disciples' third question, about "when shall these things be"..."the End of The World", starting in Matthew 24:35.

Not 'till then.

There is symbolic, Biblically-Figurative, language used before Matthew 24:35, which seems like is about "The End of The World", when it is talking about the destruction of Jerusalem.

No, there are no 'double-interpretations'.

 

That just is not true. Post-trib was being refuted by Scofield and is considered heretical by most Evangelicals and Fundamentalists.

 

You lost me. I thought that your talking about the imminent return of Jesus sounded like dispensationalism.

 

imminent
: ready to take place : happening soon

 

See, post-trib doesn't teach that at all, as I imagine that you will concede.