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My goodness, I just shared two passages from God's word and you respond with "says you."

Your heart is shut to what you refuse. This is solely between you and God. Moreso, others have responded and shared even more scripture.

I am confident our King will correct you.

 

How? The new birth is something God does to us and for us in order that we might be saved. The new birth is a change in the persons heart that awakens them to the truth of the Gospel.

Once we are born again, repentance and faith will without a doubt result unto salvation

Have you ever read Daniel 4 about what happened to an arrogant King? God made him live like a beast of the field for 7 yrs. God then changed his heart again

 

You sound like Nicodemus...

John 3:1-12
Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesusby night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born againhe cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘Youmust be born again.’ The windblows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things? Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know, and bear witness to what we have seen, but youdo not receive our testimony. If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how can you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

Grace is not a new theology.

 

It's not new, SBG.
This has been around since Moses ( and long before him ) and David.
See Exodus 33:19 and Psalms 65:4.

In the centuries since Christ ascended,
the scholar Origen wrote of those who taught God's salvation of sinners by strictly His own will and choice, and labeled them as heretics...
as did the Council of Trent in it Sixth Session, "On Justification" in 1563.

In later years, John Wesley viciously attacked it ( as well as failing to heed the Lord's commandments about not speaking evil of men by attacking Augustus Toplady in print and in sermons, personally ), and many have done so since then.

With such a huge roster of relatively recent opponents ( including the largest body of baptized adherents in a single institution ), I can see why you'd call it "new", my friend.
But I can assure you, it's not new, and the Lord Himself taught it as well as Peter and Paul.

Please refer to John 6, John 8, John 10 and John 17, as well as 1 Peter, Romans 8, Romans 9, Romans 11, Ephesians 1, Ephesians 2, 2 Thessalonians 2, and the 2nd letter to Timothy among others.

" But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:
13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

Remember when you said that God can do anything that He wishes?

He can and does change hearts without our permission ( Acts of the Apostles 16:14 ).

 

Respectfully,
I was under the impression that you believed that God can do whatever He wishes.
Would you clarify that, please?

On the one hand you state that He can, and then you seem to object to it.
I'm getting a bit confused, sir.
In addition, the Bible does indeed teach that men are fully responsible for their sins and are not fatalistic machines, as you seem to think that I am stating.
How is it that you come to such a conclusion, if I may ask?

Do you somehow think that He owes us a chance to repent before He judges us for those sins?
Case-in-point, Sodom and Gomorrah...no preachers were sent.
Another one: Jericho...no preachers were sent, yet Rahab and her family were saved ( see Joshua 2, Hebrews 11 ).

In fact, I don't see anywhere in the Bible that God promises to grant us an extension on His judgment in the hope that we will repent, as a race.
Rather, I see Him reserving people for that judgment ( 2 Peter 2, Jude 1:4-12 ).

" For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;" ( 2 Peter 2:4 ) <--- The angels that fell.

" But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 and shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, [as] they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time." <----- False teachers.

" And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." ( Jude 1:6 ) <----- Fallen angels.

" These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
13 raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever." Jude 1:12-13 ). <------- Again, false teachers.

 

Amen, and I quite agree with you here.

Yes, I did.
I can show you the Scriptural support that I use for that, if you would like.

Romans 2 is but one place.

Where is it that mankind was ever said to be reasonable towards the Lord, except if they were already the recipients of His grace?
I'll need to see some Scriptural support for this, please.

Also,
Where do you see that man's will is in anything but a willful and rebellious shambles, and men have become haters of God ( Romans 1:30 ), will not come to Christ that they might have life ( John 3:19-20, John 5:40 ) and hate God's own children because they hate Him and His Son ( John 15:18 )?

Given these ( and many more ), it looks to me that man's so-called free will isn't as free as many people seem to believe.
Rather, it's quite biased against the Lord...
Which to me, makes it a bit difficult to sit down and reason together with Him.

 

How can we call upon a God whom we have not believed. Romans 10:14

Prime text for regeneration predeeding faith. It would make no sense to call on a God who is unknown to us by faith!

 

EXACTLY!!!... When Jesus called Lazarus, Lazarus came forth, now could Lazarus come forth being dead, there being no change in Lazarus?... The same divine power that the Lord used to call Lazarus from the dead, is the same divine power used to quicken the dead, to newness in life...The Lord calls those dead in trespasses and sin after the man is regenerated, after a change within to enable the called to respond to it... No change of heart no call... No birth... No call... The Holy Spirit alone is the one that initiate the call in all... The way some of you brethren talk the Holy Spirit is in the unemployment line.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Brother Glen

 

It doesn't matter the people are going to do what God has determined. Just like pharaoh, he voluntarily harden his heart because God had determined to harden it first. Man will acquise to the Sovereign will and work of God.

 

Yes, exactly. Again, see Daniel 4

 

No its God sense !

 

@SavedByGrace :
One thing I'd like to correct is my post in which I made this statement...

I am in error with what I have posted in the parentheses...
As far as I am aware, it has never been firmly established or substantiated that Mr. Wesley personally attacked Mr. Toplady in print and in his sermons.