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which no doubt they have changed because of the problems the original causes! One cannot change the original language which was used for a purpose!

 

Since Christ was "foreknow" before the foundation of the world, God formulated His redemption plan before Adam was created.
1 Peter 1:20

However, the next issue is did God's redemption plan designate the individuals to be redeemed, or was the designation corporate? Corporate because 1 Peter 2:9-10 says once we were not a people. Once we had not received mercy.

God causes or allows whatsoever comes to pass, thus God is not the author of sin. Those that claim God caused Adam to sin are presenting unbiblical bogus doctrine from the middle ages. God provided the opportunity for Adam to sin, and allowed Adam to sin, but Adam sinned on his own volition. That is the biblical doctrine.

 

The purpose for which God allowed Genesis 3:1-24 to take place. To the objective of God's glory. Re: 15. "In order, for the purpose; to the end; as means to an end."

Referencing:
Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English
"OR'DER, n. [L. ordo.]

1. Regular disposition or methodical arrangement of things; a word of extensive application; as the order of troops or parade; the order of books in a library; the order of proceedings in a legislative assembly. Order is the life of business.

Good order is the foundation of all good things.

2. Proper state; as the muskets are all in good order. When the bodily organs are in order, a person is in health; when they are out of order, he is indisposed.

3. Adherence to the point in discussion, according to established rules of debate; as, the member is not in order, that is, he wanders from the question.

4. Established mode of proceeding. The motion is not in order.

5. Regularity; settled mode of operation.

This fact could not occur in the order of nature; it is against the natural order of things.

6. Mandate; precept; command; authoritative direction. I have received an order from the commander in chief. The general gave orders to march. There is an order of council to issue letters of marque.

7. Rule; regulation; as the rules and orders of a legislative house.

8. Regular government or discipline. It is necessary for society that good order should be observed. The meeting was turbulent; it was impossible to keep order.

9. Rank; class; division of men; as the order of nobles; the order of priests; the higher orders of society; men of the lowest order; order of knights; military orders, etc.

10. A religious fraternity; as the order of Benedictines.

11. A division of natural objects, generally intermediate between class and genus. The classes, in the Linnean artificial system, are divided into orders, which include one or more genera. Linne also arranged vegetables, in his natural system, into groups of genera, called order. In the natural system of Jussieu, orders are subdivisions of classes.

12. Measures; care. Take some order for the safety and support of the soldiers.

Provide me soldiers whilst I take order for my own affairs.

13. In rhetoric, the placing of words and members in a sentence in such a manner as to contribute to force and beauty of expression, or to the clear illustration of the subject.

14. The title of certain ancient books containing the divine office and manner of its performance.

15. In architecture, a system of several members, ornaments and proportions of columns and pilasters; or a regular arrangement of the projecting parts of a building, especially of the columns, so as to form one beautiful whole. The orders are five, the Tuscan, Doric, Ionic, Corinthian, and Composite. The order consists of two principal members, the column, and the entablature, each of which is composed of three principal parts. Those of the column are the base, the shaft, and the capital; those of the entablature are the architrave, the frize, and the cornice. The height of the Tuscan column is 14 modules or semidiameters of the shaft at the bottom, and that os the entablature 3 1/2. The height of the Doric order is 16 modules and that of the entablature 4; that of the Ionic is 18 modules, and that of the entablature 4 1/2, that of the Corinthian order is 20 modules, and that of the entablature 5. The height of the Composite order agrees with that of the Corinthian.

In orders, set apart for the performance divine service; ordained to the work of the gospel ministry.

In order, for the purpose; to the end; as means to an end. The best knowledge is that which is of the greatest use in order to our eternal happiness.

General orders, the commands or notices which a military commander in chief issues to the troops under his command.

OR'DER, v.t.

1. To regulate; to methodize; to systemize; to adjust; to subject to system in management and execution; as, to order domestic affairs with prudence.

2. To lead; to conduct; to subject to rules or laws.

To him that ordereth his conversation aright, will I show the salvation of God. Psa 50.

3. to direct; to command. the general ordered his troops to advance.

4. To manage; to treat.

How shall we order the child? Judg 13.

5. To ordain. [Not used.]

6. To direct; to dispose in any particular manner.

Order my steps in thy word. Psa 119.

OR'DER, v.i. to give command or direction."

 

When the Westminster Confession of Faith was drawn up, the word "order" had the meaning of "ordain"

To set or keep in order or proper condition; to adjust, dispose, or carry on according to rule; to regulate, direct, conduct, rule, govern, manage; to settle. (In quot. 1593, to regulate the conveyance of (troops).)

 

You are trying to defend the undefendable

 

simply because the Holy Bible does not teach or allow it. Simple! The WCF makes God out to be the author of sin, when they say that "whatever comes to pass has been ordered" By God. When this document was written, "ordered" had the same meaning as "ordained". Now, either God has, or has not, "ordered all things that come to pass". If this is so, as the WCF has it, then there can be no escaping the fact, that God must be sins "author". The language used on the fall, also shows that somehow God not only "had pleasure" in this, but also "purposed" it, and then it says in Genesis 6, that God was pained that man had fallen! If He had "purposed" the fall in the first place, then why should he be "grieved" when man sinned? Reformed theology is crackers!

 

Are not though both eternal plans of God, as from all eternity the Fall and the Cross were already to happen in His mind?

 

What's the point when you are just trying to defend the WCF even though I have shown that it is unbiblical in parts. You are obviously intent in sticking to your convictions as a reformed person.

 

He could if was for a greater purpose?

 

was not the Cross of Christ though already to come before there even was the fall?

 

What actually cause the fall? Absurd!

 

was the final state of man in the glorified state better then was before the Fall though?

 

are you saying that God cause Adam and Eve to sin against Him, and then punish them for doing so, and the whole human race? How can God be the "cause/author" of sin, and Himself remain Holy and sinless?

 

I am not saying that he did, just that something to consider here!