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The Invitation To Heaven

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Mar 13, 2021.

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  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    check out # 217, lets have your thoughts on what CHS says...
     
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    what do you make of Jesus' words in Luke 13:24? "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to". Where the Greek Ἀγωνίζεσθε, is to "contend, exert oneself, to endeavor with strenuous zeal".
     
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    Of course, but we are not talking about after being in Christ, we are talking about people who are not in Christ. It says there are none who are righteous and not only that there are NONE that seek after God. So why do some seek God? It's because God effectually calls them and causes them to seek Him. He changes their heart and desire.
     
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    Scripture says none seek God. So do you disagree with God?
     
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    and you said that you believe in FREE WILL. Man, why can't you be consistent in what you believe?
     
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    I did say I believe in free will if by free will you mean we always choose what we desire.
     
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    You are in the group that disagrees completely with God. You deny the people of Matthew 23:13 were seeking God. Therefore your view is completely unbiblical nonsense. You, you, you are a one trick pony.

    No one seeks God! The people of Matthew 23:13 were in the process of entering the kingdom, and therefore were seeking God.
    Thus the idea is no one seeks God when they have turned aside, and we all at times turn aside.
    So no one seeks God when sinning, and everyone sins, therefore no one seeks God all the time.

    No need to make more of this verse than its intended message, the unsaved are all under sin. Full Stop
     
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    Did I say nobody seeks God? No. I said nobody IN THEIR NATURAL STATE seeks God.
     
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    I am very consistent. You just seem to always want to twist what has been said.
     
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    It's a really serious position you take assuming you are right.
     
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    The truth in one scripture destroys all human interpretations.
     
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    Once the term includes the created universe, you are stuck trying to disprove it and changing the meaning.
     
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    it appears that you don't understand how Hebrew and Greek word meanings actually work.
     
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    In opposing the teaching of scriptures on mans fallen condition,sbg goes on to state how he himself opposes the God of scripture by stating the complete opposite of the biblical teaching.
    When you casually set aside the light,turn from it, darkness follows
     
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    You were a rebel the whole time,desiring sin rather than salvation from sin.
     
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    speak for yourself! you don't even know me :eek:
     
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    Have to believe in the real Jesus, not the one of Mormonism/JW/or Islam!
     
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    NONE of them are reconciled to God, nor saved by any of that!
     
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    He also would state that the ones who would come and receive were those chosen by God to do such!
     
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    Lord does, and His view is ALL were rebels before saved!
     
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