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So Jesus is not fully God?

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1689Dave said:
When you say Jesus, it assumes his humanity. It's claiming he is God that the Creeds prove. Do you like to argue?
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A creed should present what is believed. Only the word of God and sound reasoning based on accepted truth can serve as any kind of proof. But while a creed can present the word of God, creeds are not the word of God in place of the written word of God.

Do I like to argue? I do like have a friendly discussion on points of differnce and interest. I do not like hostile argument.
 
1689Dave

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37818 said:
A creed should present what is believed. Only the word of God and sound reasoning based on accepted truth can serve as any kind of proof. But while a creed can present the word of God, creeds are not the word of God in place of the written word of God.

Do I like to argue? I do like have a friendly discussion on points of differnce and interest. I do not like hostile argument.
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What you don't understand about the Creeds is how they explain the hard to explain. Anyone can gain much from a cursory reading of scripture. But how to put it together takes great learning and skill. If you ever read any creeds, you can easily see where you are lacking in what you believe about certain topics.
 
canadyjd

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37818 said:
That is your wrong opinion.
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Are you Jehovah Witness?

The moment Jesus was conceived/born was He fully God and fully man?

Or do you believe He became God at some other point? At the resurrection perhaps?

And yes, IMO you keep dancing around this question.

peace to you
 
37818

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canadyjd said:
Are you Jehovah Witness?
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I am a Baptist Christian. I hold that the Christian New Testament is the sole apostolic authority of the Christian Faith.

Now if you were to explain to someone how to know for sure the would go to Heaven, what would you explain?
 
canadyjd

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I am a Baptist Christian. I hold that the Christian New Testament is the sole apostolic authority of the Christian Faith.

Now if you were to explain to someone how to know for sure the would go to Heaven, what would you explain?
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That question isn’t related to the thread, but I’ll answer if/when you answer my question.

No qualifiers. Yes or no. When Jesus was born, was He fully God and fully man?

peace to you
 
canadyjd

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37818 said:
I am a Baptist Christian. I hold that the Christian New Testament is the sole apostolic authority of the Christian Faith.?
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Thanks, I think, for almost answering directly on whether you are Jehovah witness or not.

peace to you
 
37818

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1689Dave said:
What you don't understand about the Creeds is how they explain the hard to explain. Anyone can gain much from a cursory reading of scripture. But how to put it together takes great learning and skill. If you ever read any creeds, you can easily see where you are lacking in what you believe about certain topics.
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I have been a Christian since 1962. My first study Bible is The Scofield Reference Bible and concordance the Oxford Cyclopedic Concordance. In 1968 and on I made extensive use of the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance to do careful topical Bible study.. Now the first creed in the mid 90's I looked at taught the false doctrine of the Son being eternally begotten. Utter nonsense. It is the fruit of the error of Arianism.
 
37818

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Now again, for the record, the title of this thread is from a dumb question from a closed thread asked by none other than @Yeshua1
 
canadyjd

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37818 said:
Yes.
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Thank you

I still don’t understand the point you are trying to make, but I’ll leave you to it.

If someone asked how I know I’ll go to heaven my short answer is that God Holy Spirit indwells me and Holy Spirit testifies with my spirit that I am a child of God.

peace to you
 
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1689Dave said:
The church universal identifies heretics according to their rejection of the Ecumenical Creeds. They unify the Church as Jesus prayed. Where do you fit? The 1689 Baptists agree with them.
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Heretics are those who reject inspired teachings of the scriptures themselves!
 
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37818 said:
Christology is not a feeling. It is essentual to be saved. 2 John 1:9, "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God."
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Is Christ fully Yahweh, equal to the Father?
 
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37818 said:
The statement "Jesus is God" is broken. Jesus Christ is both a man and God. He is God because that is who He is from eternity and He being God was not caused by the Father.

Which creed presents the Son of God as Creator?
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He is the only begotten of.by the Father!
 
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