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Scripture dictation, mechanical or otherwise

rlvaughn

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...see the Lord allowing them to record as they desired based upon their own vocabulary and style and way of writing, but the Holy Spirit made sure finished product free of all errors and mistakes!
So the Holy Spirit was just an editor after the fact, removing any errors or mistakes they made?
 

Yeshua1

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So the Holy Spirit was just an editor after the fact, removing any errors or mistakes they made?
He was guiding the finished product, but he still allowed them to write it down as they would based upon their style and vocabulary. One can read what Luke wrote, or Paul, and contrast that to how peter wrote it!
 

SavedByGrace

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When they were used to give a message concerning prophecy or theology and doctrines, they were!

wrong! ONLY when the Writers of the 66 Books of the Holy Bible Wrote their Books, were they at that time ONLY, Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and Infallible. No other time.
 

rlvaughn

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He was guiding the finished product, but he still allowed them to write it down as they would based upon their style and vocabulary.
Which would be like what, then? That the Holy Spirit tapped them on the shoulder of their minds and caused them to erase and rewrite their mistakes? If their own style included making mistakes (which is ultimately true of all humans) wouldn't God preventing them from making mistakes and making them write infallibly be somewhat "mechanical" as well.
One can read what Luke wrote, or Paul, and contrast that to how peter wrote it!
Which only proves that they wrote differently, not how they came to do so. Is it outside God's ability to have dictated his word to men perfectly and without error, while preserving the language, emotions, backgrounds, and personalities of the writers?
 
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Yeshua1

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Which would be like what, then? That the Holy Spirit tapped them on the shoulder of their minds and caused them to erase and rewrite their mistakes? If their own style included making mistakes (which is ultimately true of all humans) wouldn't God preventing them from making mistakes and making them write infallibly be somewhat "mechanical" as well. Which only proves that they wrote differently, not how they came to do so. Is it outside God's ability to have dictated his word to men perfectly and without error, while preserving the language, emotions, backgrounds, and personalities of the writers?
Is it impossible for the Holy Spirit to not be able to get thru them inerrant books without making them drones and robots?
 

Yeshua1

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wrong! ONLY when the Writers of the 66 Books of the Holy Bible Wrote their Books, were they at that time ONLY, Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and Infallible. No other time.
So when the Apostles spoke the messages that became written down later on, they were not speaking without errors in theology?
 

Stratton7

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wrong! ONLY when the Writers of the 66 Books of the Holy Bible Wrote their Books, were they at that time ONLY, Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and Infallible. No other time.
I agree w/ the 100% Inspiration. But saying no other time is subjective outside the writing of the Bible. Can it be certain that everything ever done, that’s been Inspired, was done within the pages of the Bible and perhaps not at any other moments that God just didn’t feel necessary to have in His Word?
 

rlvaughn

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Is it impossible for the Holy Spirit to not be able to get thru them inerrant books without making them drones and robots?
If a boss dictates a letter to a secretary, would that make the secretary a drone or a robot?
 

SavedByGrace

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I agree w/ the 100% Inspiration. But saying no other time is subjective outside the writing of the Bible. Can it be certain that everything ever done, that’s been Inspired, was done within the pages of the Bible and perhaps not at any other moments that God just didn’t feel necessary to have in His Word?

Are you suggesting that the Holy Bible alone is not the Unique Word of God
 

Stratton7

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Are you suggesting that the Holy Bible alone is not the Unique Word of God
Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.
But you didn’t answer my question. I was saying that could there be a chance that the Holy Spirit also had things that were said by the apostles or anywhere else in history “outside” of the Bible? Because you said “At no other time.”
I’m not even certain if the Holy Spirit has done or said anything that was Inspired outside of Scripture (that God decided He didn’t want in the Bible).
Just a question of curiosity.
 

SavedByGrace

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Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.
But you didn’t answer my question. I was saying that could there be a chance that the Holy Spirit also had things that were said by the apostles or anywhere else in history “outside” of the Bible? Because you said “At no other time.”
I’m not even certain if the Holy Spirit has done or said anything that was Inspired outside of Scripture (that God decided He didn’t want in the Bible).
Just a question of curiosity.

This is speculative theology
 

SavedByGrace

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Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.
But you didn’t answer my question. I was saying that could there be a chance that the Holy Spirit also had things that were said by the apostles or anywhere else in history “outside” of the Bible? Because you said “At no other time.”
I’m not even certain if the Holy Spirit has done or said anything that was Inspired outside of Scripture (that God decided He didn’t want in the Bible).
Just a question of curiosity.

Did you know that the Apostle Paul wrote 3 or possibly 4 Letters to the Church at Corinth? Yet it pleased the Holy Spirit that only 2 are Inspired and worthy of the Bible. The others are not Inspired though written by the same Paul
 

Yeshua1

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I agree w/ the 100% Inspiration. But saying no other time is subjective outside the writing of the Bible. Can it be certain that everything ever done, that’s been Inspired, was done within the pages of the Bible and perhaps not at any other moments that God just didn’t feel necessary to have in His Word?
Were those teachings and miracles of Jesus done but not written down still be inspired and true?
 

John of Japan

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Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.
But you didn’t answer my question. I was saying that could there be a chance that the Holy Spirit also had things that were said by the apostles or anywhere else in history “outside” of the Bible? Because you said “At no other time.”
I’m not even certain if the Holy Spirit has done or said anything that was Inspired outside of Scripture (that God decided He didn’t want in the Bible).
Just a question of curiosity.
Not to answer for him, but if I may have some input, this is a good time to mention the difference between revelation and inspiration. Revelation occurs when God tells us things important to know. There are two kinds. First of all, general or natural revelation is God showing Himself through His creation (Ps. 97:6, Romans 1:20). Special revelation is that given to us through the Word of God. So then, inspiration (already defined) is the process by which God gives us special revelation.
 
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