SavedByGrace
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The Prophets and Apostles spoke and wrote unique to themselves, but were still all inspired!
are you saying that when the Apostles and Prophets spoke among themselves, they were "Inspired" in their discussions?
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The Prophets and Apostles spoke and wrote unique to themselves, but were still all inspired!
When they were used to give a message concerning prophecy or theology and doctrines, they were!are you saying that when the Apostles and Prophets spoke among themselves, they were "Inspired" in their discussions?
So the Holy Spirit was just an editor after the fact, removing any errors or mistakes they made?...see the Lord allowing them to record as they desired based upon their own vocabulary and style and way of writing, but the Holy Spirit made sure finished product free of all errors and mistakes!
He was guiding the finished product, but he still allowed them to write it down as they would based upon their style and vocabulary. One can read what Luke wrote, or Paul, and contrast that to how peter wrote it!So the Holy Spirit was just an editor after the fact, removing any errors or mistakes they made?
When they were used to give a message concerning prophecy or theology and doctrines, they were!
Which would be like what, then? That the Holy Spirit tapped them on the shoulder of their minds and caused them to erase and rewrite their mistakes? If their own style included making mistakes (which is ultimately true of all humans) wouldn't God preventing them from making mistakes and making them write infallibly be somewhat "mechanical" as well.He was guiding the finished product, but he still allowed them to write it down as they would based upon their style and vocabulary.
Which only proves that they wrote differently, not how they came to do so. Is it outside God's ability to have dictated his word to men perfectly and without error, while preserving the language, emotions, backgrounds, and personalities of the writers?One can read what Luke wrote, or Paul, and contrast that to how peter wrote it!
Is it impossible for the Holy Spirit to not be able to get thru them inerrant books without making them drones and robots?Which would be like what, then? That the Holy Spirit tapped them on the shoulder of their minds and caused them to erase and rewrite their mistakes? If their own style included making mistakes (which is ultimately true of all humans) wouldn't God preventing them from making mistakes and making them write infallibly be somewhat "mechanical" as well. Which only proves that they wrote differently, not how they came to do so. Is it outside God's ability to have dictated his word to men perfectly and without error, while preserving the language, emotions, backgrounds, and personalities of the writers?
So when the Apostles spoke the messages that became written down later on, they were not speaking without errors in theology?wrong! ONLY when the Writers of the 66 Books of the Holy Bible Wrote their Books, were they at that time ONLY, Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and Infallible. No other time.
I agree w/ the 100% Inspiration. But saying no other time is subjective outside the writing of the Bible. Can it be certain that everything ever done, that’s been Inspired, was done within the pages of the Bible and perhaps not at any other moments that God just didn’t feel necessary to have in His Word?wrong! ONLY when the Writers of the 66 Books of the Holy Bible Wrote their Books, were they at that time ONLY, Inspired by the Holy Spirit, and Infallible. No other time.
If a boss dictates a letter to a secretary, would that make the secretary a drone or a robot?Is it impossible for the Holy Spirit to not be able to get thru them inerrant books without making them drones and robots?
I agree w/ the 100% Inspiration. But saying no other time is subjective outside the writing of the Bible. Can it be certain that everything ever done, that’s been Inspired, was done within the pages of the Bible and perhaps not at any other moments that God just didn’t feel necessary to have in His Word?
Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.Are you suggesting that the Holy Bible alone is not the Unique Word of God
Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.
But you didn’t answer my question. I was saying that could there be a chance that the Holy Spirit also had things that were said by the apostles or anywhere else in history “outside” of the Bible? Because you said “At no other time.”
I’m not even certain if the Holy Spirit has done or said anything that was Inspired outside of Scripture (that God decided He didn’t want in the Bible).
Just a question of curiosity.
Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.
But you didn’t answer my question. I was saying that could there be a chance that the Holy Spirit also had things that were said by the apostles or anywhere else in history “outside” of the Bible? Because you said “At no other time.”
I’m not even certain if the Holy Spirit has done or said anything that was Inspired outside of Scripture (that God decided He didn’t want in the Bible).
Just a question of curiosity.
Which is partly how I wondered you could say “At no other time,” which is also speculation.This is speculative theology
Which is partly how I wondered you could say “At no other time,” which is also speculation.
IF he did not tell her to express it as she would normally do, yes!If a boss dictates a letter to a secretary, would that make the secretary a drone or a robot?
Were those teachings and miracles of Jesus done but not written down still be inspired and true?I agree w/ the 100% Inspiration. But saying no other time is subjective outside the writing of the Bible. Can it be certain that everything ever done, that’s been Inspired, was done within the pages of the Bible and perhaps not at any other moments that God just didn’t feel necessary to have in His Word?
No, rather that the Lord Jesus and his Apostles still did and said things that were at the time inspired but not recorded down to us in the Bible!Are you suggesting that the Holy Bible alone is not the Unique Word of God
Not to answer for him, but if I may have some input, this is a good time to mention the difference between revelation and inspiration. Revelation occurs when God tells us things important to know. There are two kinds. First of all, general or natural revelation is God showing Himself through His creation (Ps. 97:6, Romans 1:20). Special revelation is that given to us through the Word of God. So then, inspiration (already defined) is the process by which God gives us special revelation.Of course not. I said it’s 100% Inspired Word of God.
But you didn’t answer my question. I was saying that could there be a chance that the Holy Spirit also had things that were said by the apostles or anywhere else in history “outside” of the Bible? Because you said “At no other time.”
I’m not even certain if the Holy Spirit has done or said anything that was Inspired outside of Scripture (that God decided He didn’t want in the Bible).
Just a question of curiosity.