Do you mean to tell me that, in direct contradiction to Isaiah 7:14, that the Virign Birth already happened. That passage says "The Virgin shall conceive and bear a child." Thus it is clearly future. Now, I use that absurd example to make a sane point. Just because we have a Bible passage that speaks of a future event does not mean that it is necessarily future to us in 2021. Jerusalem surrounded by armies, in Luke, is spoken of as future but it is already past. The same with the Sec0nd Coming.Finally,
Are you telling me that, in direct contradiction to the day and the hour of His coming that no man knows ( Matthew 24:36 ), that you somehow are looking back on that very same day and hour, knowing exactly when it was, and none of the rest of us know, because there's no record of it ever happening?
And what kind of record are you looking for? Why do you discount the promise from Christ (many promises) that it would be within that generation?
You are conflating things. Take a look at Daniel 12:2. Both believers and unbelievers arising. See especially John 5:28-29In addition, are you aware that in a prior thread, you stated that the first resurrection was already past....
Not knowing that the recipients of that resurrection are the only ones who will ever be saved and be with the Lord?
The dead in Christ rising first, and then we which are alive and remaining meeting Him in the clouds?
Tom, the second resurrection is the one unto death.
Those are the ones death and Hell shall give up and their names not found written in the Book of Life.
In effect,
it seems that you're telling people here that not only are you going to the Lake of Fire, but so are they.
"Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming when all who are in their graves will hear His voice and come out—those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment."
So, according to you, is this a description of the first or second resurrection? Do you not see how this does not fit your paradigm above?
No. Ridiculous extrapolation. It is hard to explain to you because your theology is wrong on so many points.Please allow me to summarize...
Basically stated, you're telling your readers that,
1) They have no hope in the resurrection, because it is passed. These bodies that they are living in are the only ones they shall ever see.
Again, ridiculous. After the Rapture and Resurrection the world still has people living. And from that time onward people still die. And when they die they (and we) will meet the Lord for either reward or judgment.2) They have no hope to be with Christ because He's already come and gone...there will be no "3rd coming"...unless the next thing you're going to tell us is that there will be a third coming.
My Lord and Saviour is with us now. He is reigning now. He is "ruling in the midst of His enemies". Again, you have been mistaught a wrong concept of the Kingdom of God.3) The abomination of desolation happened in the past, as did the tribulation.
Therefore, we're all living in a Post-Tribulational world waiting for a Saviour that will never come again...not even in the clouds.
My suggestion is that you study these things from the more clear parts of Scripture, like John or the Epistles. That will throw much light on Revelation. I just do not have time to tackle this.4) According to this:
" Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."
See above. You really, really need to study more. The Preterist view is much more positive and spiritually proactive than much of the futurism. We have a present reigning King.The resurrection is past?
Then we've all missed out, and none of us will have glorified bodies that are no longer tainted with sin.
Also, only the ones who have experienced the first resurrection are the ones that the second death ( the Lake of Fire ) has no power over.
Therefore, all who are reading this are going to the Lake of Fire.
Ouch.
It seems that every time that I look at one of your threads, it gets worse and worse for those who love the Lord.![]()
Incredible. I hope you see things better soon. You are missing out on major blessing. When I became a Preterist a lot of those parts of the Bible that seemed so difficult suddenly turned on like so many lights. I would not go back to DIspensationalism or any form of futurism for all the world.
The real difficult part of Preterism is all the animosity one gets. We lost friends, lost ministries, and so on. It was hard at first. But now I am so thankful.