Man-kind never set foot on the planetary body known as the 'moon', acc to Bible (KJB), Hist. & Sci.

Man-kind never set foot on the planetary body known as the 'moon', according to the Bible (KJB), History & Science.

Just because:

N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate
N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer
N.A.S.A. - Numerous Anomalies Scams Abound
N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors
N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether,
N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!
N.A.S.A. - Never Accept Serpent Assertions.

Saying such does not validate the heresy of 'flat-earth' rhetoric. One error demonstrated (NASA), does not validate an associated error (flat-earth) as true. This thread is not for the purpose of discussion of said erroneous 'flat-earth' (make your own thread, and I will be glad to show from scripture and SoP/ToJ the error of 'flat-earth' in great detail).

The position taken, is a scriptural (KJB), historical and scientific one.

God will never allow man-kind and their sin to leave this planet [world, spheroid, it is the quarantine zone, the sickbed of the universal Hospital [angels, as nurses, Christ Jesus the Great Physician, a leper colony on an island in space, struck off [temporarily] from the continent of heaven, etc], and even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here, unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7 (which seems to draw upon Job 1:21 & Ecclesiastes 5:15); Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB].

1 Timothy 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

Psalms 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.​

Mankind was in Genesis, given dominion (Genesis 1:26,28) over this world, and no others. Mankind in Genesis is never given dominion over any of the Sun, Moon or "stars". Once satan usurped that dominion, he was considered the 'god of this word' (2 Corinthians 4:4) in the place of Adam as the 'god' (who knew good) of this world (Genesis 3:5; Psalms 82:1,6; John 10:34; etc). Only satan could then travel to the third Heaven and back (Job 1:6-12, 2:1-7; 1 Kings 22:19-23; 2 Chronicles 18:18-22) as representative.

Mankind, as well as the devil, does have physical access to "high" (Ephesians 6:12; applying to the natural first) altitude ("power of the air" (Ephesians 2:2; on this earth, but nothing beyond that. The reach of the devil does not extend to the moon, sun or stars any longer. Yet, he still tries, through mankind, to spread sin to all the unfallen worlds.

The space program (whether from NASA, Space-Ex, or other government and/or private 'space' agencies) is/are actually another system designed by satan based upon the tower of babel reasoning/thought, being another way up into Heaven other than The Way (John 14:6), another ladder other than the Jacobs Ladder - Jesus Christ. The only way into Heaven now is by vision (Revelation 1:10), or by John 14:1-3.

Some names I may recommend to all (most of which is freely available online to read or watch, consider scientifically).

Bill Kaysing (ex Rocket-Dyne engineer);

James Collier (Was it only a paper moon; an independent reporter);

Bart Sibrel (Astronauts Gone Wild; a (now) Seventh-day Adventist, I have spoken with him);

Ralph Rene (NASA Mooned America);

Marcus Allen (author, speaker with Aulis & Nexus magazine);

David Percy (What happened on the Moon, Analysis; Hall of Mirrors; film and audio/visual expert);

Mary Bennett;

Jim (James) Fetzer;

Jarrah White (Moon Faker, Mars Faker (youtube); independent atheist, be aware of that, but he surely disproved 'Myth Busters' in person);

Richard Hall and fellows;

N.A.S.A. itself (last by not least), and its own material, still available and that which has since been removed, deleted, redacted, etc.

If any need a link to those material, they can be provided.

Do I agree with everything they have said or done Of course not. I am only interested in facts, which substantiate the scriptural position.

What I find, especially in these last days of deception (Revelation 12:9, 13:14, 18:23, 19:20, 20:10; 2 Timothy 3:13, etc), is that people trust their fallible eye-witness and fallen reasoning, more than the sure word of Prophecy from God who cannot lie. Mankind instead has believed the lie through the medium (Tele-vision), just as it was in the beginning. Eve truly believed she had entered a higher 'sphere' (world) of experience, when all the while, it was a delusion.

The only way in which a man may be truly "lifted up" (John 3:14, 8:28, 12:32) to Heaven, is not by force of might and strength of arm, willpower and satanic ingenuity, but it is only through Calvary, and dying upon the Cross appointed by God. It is never achieved by exalting (propelling) one's self upward that one gains Heaven and surpassing of earth's bounds, but it is by lowering one self, and humbling one self to the dust, and dying unto the death of the Cross that we are then taken by God and exalted to Heaven. Jesus gave the example:

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.​

 

Can you tell me what the boots, along with the spacesuits were made of, and what radiation protection was built into the boots, and suit, and their thermal tolerances?

Here is some information that you might consider:

"... This boot is part of the pair that was made for and worn by Eugene Cernan, commander of the Apollo 17 mission that landed on the moon on December 10, 1972.

The International Latex Corporation made the boots which were part of Cernan's extra-vehicular (EV) equipment. The EV boots were worn over the boots that were integrated into the spacesuit and which included the pressure bladder and thermal coverings. The boots were made with a silicone sole, woven stainless steel uppers (Chromel-R), and included additional layers of thermal protection and beta felt in the soles as protection against extreme temperatures and sharp rocks on the lunar surface.

Transferred to the National Air and Space Museum from NASA in 1974 ..." - Boot, Left, Lunar Overshoe, Cernan, Apollo 17, Flown | National Air and Space Museum​

"Chromel-R" is a metal woven fabric. Beta felt is a Teflon coated Beta cloth (glass fiber).

"Chromel R, a nickel chromium alloy fiber developed by Hoskins Mfg. Co. in the mid-1960s, was used in the form of a woven-metal fabric to protect the astronauts’ legs from hot gases produced by the astronauts’ maneuvering unit. These materials would also be used in the subsequent Apollo program."- Textiles in space – Advanced Textiles Source​

"... The outer layer of a lunar boot, except for the sole, was fabricated from Chromel-R and the tongue area was made of Teflon-coated Beta cloth. ..." - https://www.history.nasa.gov/SP-368/s6ch6.htm

"... The 1967 tragedy in the Apollo program led to major breakthroughs in textile science and engineering. The cabin fire that killed Gus Grissom, Edward White and Roger Chaffee during a launch pad test directly led to the development of the Beta glass fiber by Owens Corning Fiberglas Corp.


The company had been experimenting with an ultrafine glass fiber when NASA’s Johnson Space Center contracted it to further the development of ultrafine fibers. The result of this work was the development of a glass fiber with a 4.8 micron diameter that became known as Beta fiber in the aerospace community. Both NASA and Owens Corning invested in this development.

Owens Corning built a full-scale production plant after the successful development of the finest glass fiber ever made. Beta glass fiber was used extensively in the Apollo spacesuit and many other applications through the Apollo and space shuttle programs. The production plant operated until the mid-1990s when it was dismantled. Aerospace agencies had been the only customers for Beta glass fiber over the decades, and the consumption of the fiber was insufficient for the company to sustain the operation of the plant. ..." - Textiles in space – Advanced Textiles Source

"... The inner layers consisted of two layers of Kapton followed by five layers of aluminized, perforated Mylar. The Mylar layers were separated by four layers of nonwoven Dacron followed by an inner liner of Teflon-coated Beta cloth. Two layers of Nomex felt in the sole ..." - https://www.history.nasa.gov/SP-368/s6ch6.htm
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I did not see any radiation shielding mentioned in the making of those boots - at all. Silicone, glass fiber and 'stainless steel' are not radiation shielding materials. Galvanized Steel can block some EMF radiation.

"... One concern about gamma radiation is the possibility of too much crosslinking. Additional crosslinking may deform the product and decrease its flexibility and tensile strength as well as increase the durometer of the silicone. Bond rupturing also occurs in extreme cases. ..." - 3 Sterilization Methods for Silicone Devices​

Additionally, When those boots (and the compositional materials, especially the outer most external material) were in direct contact with the lunar surface on excursions (EVA's) for several hours at a time - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacewalks_and_moonwalks_1965–1999 while in direct sunlight, and in shadow, what radiated the heat (sunlight and surface temperature - Lunar Temperature - Lunarpedia ) and cold (shade and surface temperature) away from the soles of the astronauts feet?

"... Over the course of a full lunar day and night, the temperature on the Moon can vary wildly, from around +200 to -200 degrees Celsius (+392 to -328 degrees Fahrenheit) ..." - This is our planet: Awesome ISS time-lapse will blow your mind | Space Facts – Astronomy, the Solar System & Outer Space | All About Space Magazine​

Would that boot material, under standard earth conditions crack, warp or deviate in form (shrink or expand, and to what extent) under similar temperatures and durations?

Can we see a demonstration of such a boot test from NASA of those historical footware that are on display, showing that they are capable of withstanding such temperatures and their extreme ranges.

"... Museum conservators try to extend the life and integrity of objects that have become fragile over time. The fragile interior rubber bladder layer and woven Link-Net restraint layer of this suit mean that it needs to be displayed with as little weight as possible pulling on it. Because the boots are sewn onto the legs of the suit, a reclined display removes that additional pressure. ..." - Floating | Outside the Spacecraft
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If those boots really worked so well as claimed on a lunar surface, then why wouldn't they work on Martian ones or future lunar surface EVA'S, and why the need to redesign them? The only 'boots' utilized now are for non-walking EVA's - NASA - These Boots are Made for Walking

 

Why not? The material I provided was from the very people at NASA and related. They cannot (will not) answer the questions either. That ought to tell you something.

And yet, what was cited is from the very people who say they went to the moon in 1969 and later. These are the same people that take your tax dollars and fund who knows what, and spend much on propaganda in an attempt to silence the truth. It's like the days of Jesus, when the Truth could no longer be hid in the tomb, and they needed to pay the guards and others to keep silence and spread false rumours.

 

Yet, you take the time to post what you did, to mock at what you refuse to understand simply because you, being 'you', do not care and are indifferent to the suffering that others are undergoing by having been lied to on this subject. I care about others. I care about truth - in all things, and that includes science. I have been lied to, on this subject, and so many other things. I care that many are still deceived, and still being lied to and being robbed at the same time, and it will cost them (even as it is costing you now, and not merely monetarily) still yet further. If you truly do not care, please do not post in mockery. I do not find anything about being lied to, funny. I do not find anything about robbery, funny, or to make a joke at. I take this subject, as all subjects that I post on, seriously.

 

I agree, that what you provided cannot "fix unbelief" in the scriptures, history and science I already provided. What is amazing, is that when someone attempted to speak of "boots", I gave the evidence against such, and asked specific questions regarding radiation, thermal deformation, and thermal radiation, thermal tolerances, etc. No one addressed what I provided, but instead, like the WTS/JW, another subject was raised. I now address that subject, and what will happen again? Another point will be raised without addressing what I provide.

Did you see the evidence that Richard Hall (as mentioned in the OP, "Richard Hall and fellows") provided showing that those 'photos' of the Lunar surface of the landing sites are doctored and the items highlighted are way out of scale?



So, you still trust that which is provided by NASA (and your eyesight), over the word (Bible, as given in OP), the history and science which shows that it was not possible to have landed man-kind upon the lunar surface in 1969 and subsequent even unto this day?

You can see some of that here:







There are also plenty of photo analysis of the NASA 'photos' here:

AULIS Online – Different Thinking

You seem to think NASA cannot just make up any image they want, but they themselves show the opposite is true:

"...To better understand the details of these images of the Apollo landings site it can be useful to refer to Figure 3.8-13, which is a digitally edited photograph from the Apollo 16 mission. It shows how the LM descent stage would appear after the crew lifted off in the ascent stage ..." - MOON HOAX: DEBUNKED!: 3.8 Photographs of the vehicles left on the Moon​

Look carefully at the admittedly doctored photo. You do not think they cannot and have not altered a simple grayscale of lunar surface?

"... Can’t we simply point a telescope at the Moon and see if the Apollo vehicles are there? It’s one of the most frequent and common-sense questions regarding Moon hoax theories.

The answer, unfortunately, is no: even the world’s most powerful telescopes are currently unable to resolve such tiny objects at the distance of the Moon, for reasons detailed in Chapter 7. ..." - ibid.
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First, you have to accept that the 'LRO' is real and accomplished what they (NASA) says it did/does. Then you have to accept that its camera can do what they claim it does in the vacuum of space with the known radiations existing, without any degredation of signal or data (think about the problem logistics of simple earth communication and the interference just at high altitude).

Look at the supposed 'LRO' photo of the 'lunar surface' (more like high desert imitation or mock up):

http://www.mem-tek.com/apollo/LRO/a11/M109080308RE__published_lm_westcrater_deconvolved.png

"... Take a look at the excuse for a module. The lunar photo of the module is an indistinguishable white blob, a nothing burger. Look at and compare this with the boulders strewn at 4:00 in the photo. In fact, when you click to enlarge the photo, you can actually make out detail and shapes and certainly determine that these are boulders. ..." - Lunar Lunacy: Disappearing Moon Rocks, Contradictory Mineral Data, Missing Apollo Film and Destroyed Mission Technology | Winter Watch​

Northerntruthseeker: The Apollo Moon Landing Hoax: Proof Positive That The Recent LRO Images Of The "Apollo Landing Sites" Were Photo-shopped Fakes!

More photo analysis - Moon Hoax Images

Here is a pretty good list of objections (see point 149):

THE APOLLO "MOON" HOAX: FACT OR FICTION? - UFO Digest

 

Actually the Bible says that there are many unfallen worlds with many unfallen beings on them that are watching us even now. Would you like to see that from scripture?

 

Film Maker, Stanley Kubrick, says "Fake!":





Another Film Maker, David Percy, says "Fake!":





Another Film Maker, Bart Sibrel, has evidence, from NASA, that it is "Fake!":

 

I actually watched your video. Are you going to watch mine? I am willing to discuss the errors in your video, and the red herrings that the guy brings out, and the exaggerations that he uses in evidence, as well as those statements he makes which I actually have evidence for, like a moving flag (not touched), 90 and near 90 degree angles of shadows, as well as fall off in lighting, sound in space, and also addressing the 'stars' that are missing, and the single light source in some shots and not in others (he only showed one and not the other as it would debunk is rant), etc. As for the film, and slow motion, that is all smoke and mirrors. Jarrah White already showed how it was done while debunking Mythbusters:

 

Do you realize you did not answer my question?