Defending Biblical Dispensational Teaching. What Are Your Questions

[Marooncat79]

It was the Romans that crucified Christ. neither the Jews nor the Romans Killed Christ. Christ laid down His life as a sacrifice Jesus even said no man takes His life. That He laid it down and that He would take it up again. Sure the Jews wanted Him crucified but they didn't do it the Romans did that.
MB

peter claimed that the Jews killed him in acts

another verse I made up

 

[tyndale1946]

The antichrist will have put an end to them when he enters the temple, sets up his statue in it, & declares himself God.

Well now you go ahead and wait for your antichrist and play your millennial games, while I go on ahead to glory to a mansion prepared for me... I guess we will see you other brethren in 1,000 years... Now show me in these scriptures a millennial reign?... Oh and btw... This is now the dispensation of The Sovereign Grace Of God, through his Son Jesus The Christ... Brother Glen

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

[Marooncat79]

he Speeches

The evidence which relates directly to this theme falls almost exclusively in the missionary speeches and in the prayer of the Jerusalem community recorded in Acts 4:24-30. To begin with it is instructive simply to list the relevant material in order to gain a sense of the uniformity and the degree of repetition involved:

Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs which God did through him .in your midst, as you yourselves know--this Jesus, delivered up (ekdōtos) according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified (prospēxantes) and killed (aneilate) by the hands of lawless men. (Acts 2:22-23)

Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified (estaurōsate). (Acts 2:23)

 

[Marooncat79]

he Speeches

The evidence which relates directly to this theme falls almost exclusively in the missionary speeches and in the prayer of the Jerusalem community recorded in Acts 4:24-30. To begin with it is instructive simply to list the relevant material in order to gain a sense of the uniformity and the degree of repetition involved:

Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs which God did through him .in your midst, as you yourselves know--this Jesus, delivered up (ekdōtos) according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified (prospēxantes) and killed (aneilate) by the hands of lawless men. (Acts 2:22-23)

Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified (estaurōsate). (Acts 2:23)

Actually, both Jews and Romans had a hand in His death

 

[Marooncat79]

It pleased God to bruise Christ

 

[John of Japan]

It is difficult to tell when someone on these forums is upset JJ. I have not been upset at you and I do not have you on ignore.

Thanks, glad to know that.

 

[canadyjd]

Saved Jews and Gentiles of the church age are one body, yes.
Saved Jews and Gentiles from other ages are not.
The one-body doctrine is only true for Jewish and Gentile believers of the church age.

And then:

Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
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Your second quote disproves the first. In the first you state Jews and Gentiles as one new man is only for the “church age”

In the second quote, Paul is saying the union of Jew and Gentile into the one new man by the work of Jesus on the cross is permanent; “in the ages to come” Christ continues to show His grace toward us.

Peace to you

 

[MB]

peter claimed that the Jews killed him in acts

another verse I made up

Who do you want to believe Jesus or Peter?. I think Jesus should have known what was going to happen. Peter only thought he knew. it's not that Peter lied He just didn't know. At the end Jesus prayed and told His Father to take His spirit He said "Father into thy hands I commit my Spirit". I suppose it depends on just who you think Jesus was. He is God and can do things like that. He even planned His death on purpose to sacrifice Him Self for the whole world. This wasn't just a murder He had to give up Him Self to be a sacrifice. He is God and all powerful.
MB

 

[robycop3]

Well now you go ahead and wait for your antichrist and play your millennial games, while I go on ahead to glory to a mansion prepared for me... I guess we will see you other brethren in 1,000 years... Now show me in these scriptures a millennial reign?... Oh and btw... This is now the dispensation of The Sovereign Grace Of God, through his Son Jesus The Christ... Brother Glen

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

As I said-either YOU'YE wrong, or Scripture is. Here ya go:

Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

Rev. 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Pretty plain, eh? Now, please tell us why it's wrong.

BTW, you just showed us another reason to not use the outdated KJV. In its day, a "mansion" was any dwelling. It could be a grass hut. And the Greek word here is mone, which means "an abode". While a home in heaven will be much-more-substantial than any home here, we should keep to the proper translation of the Greek in OUR English.

 

[Marooncat79]

Who do you want to believe Jesus or Peter?. I think Jesus should have known what was going to happen. Peter only thought he knew. it's not that Peter lied He just didn't know. At the end Jesus prayed and told His Father to take His spirit He said "Father into thy hands I commit my Spirit". I suppose it depends on just who you think Jesus was. He is God and can do things like that. He even planned His death on purpose to sacrifice Him Self for the whole world. This wasn't just a murder He had to give up Him Self to be a sacrifice. He is God and all powerful.
MB

Again, denying the inerrancy and sufficiency of scripture.

 

[MB]

Again, denying the inerrancy and sufficiency of scripture.

try reading your Bible

 

[Yeshua1]

Who do you think that is over in Palestine today?

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

They are holy because they are a chosen nation. They are a peculiar people, and when Peter spoke this to them they were strangers in five provinces of what is now Turkey.

1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

A stranger is someone who is out of their land and wandering around in someone elses.

What impact are these circumcised strangers having on the populace?

1 Peter 2:12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

These strangers are the scattered 10 tribes that Hosea the prophet addressed in his prophecy 700 years before. They are the elect because they have believed Paul and Peter and the apostles and prophets who preached Jesus to them and now they have the Holy Spirit in them because they believed and have been set apart for God because of it.

Dispensational theology is the only thing that makes sense. BTW, Peter wrote this some 35 years after Jesus died and was buried and rose again.

Peter was addressing the saved in Christ, both jews and gentiles, and israel of today is not right with messiah yet!

 

[Yeshua1]

Why do we refer to them as OT Saints?

are OT Saints and NT Saints both referred to as a “royal priesthood and a holy nation”?

are both saved by faith alone?

Do both worship the same God?

Even though OT did not fully understand not trusted in the Redeemer -Christ. Yes or no?

The OT saints were saved by the Grace of the NC same way we all now are!

 

[Yeshua1]

The antichrist will have put an end to them when he enters the temple, sets up his statue in it, & declares himself God.

I was speaking about the ones done in midst of the Millennium though!

 

[Marooncat79]

try reading your Bible

MB you have no understanding of scripture

not being mean

 

[Marooncat79]

MB. You hold heretical positions

 

[MB]

MB. You hold heretical positions

I believe the same of you.
MB

 

[MB]

MB you have no understanding of scripture

not being mean

Thank you for your vote of confidence. Don't you mean I have no understanding of Calvinism. It's not in scripture, how could I.?
MB

 

[Marooncat79]

I was speaking about the ones done in midst of the Millennium though!

Toby cop

statue?
Don’t we worship a living Savior?

 

[MB]

Actually, both Jews and Romans had a hand in His death

God had the hand everyone else were just puppets
MB