WHO says no covid travel restrictions any more

[dad2]

"the WHO said vaccination status should not be used to disqualify people from traveling internationally, advising governments to implement vaccine mandates only as a "last resort."

WHO warns AGAINST vaccine mandates, repeated booster shots

How times change

 

[Salty]

"the WHO said vaccination status should not be used to disqualify people from traveling internationally, advising governments to implement vaccine mandates only as a "last resort."

WHO warns AGAINST vaccine mandates, repeated booster shots

How times change

just put that on FB

 

[JonC]

Not quite the whole story.

The WHO warned against a continued reliance on shots for the original virus, saying vaccines need to be adapted for new varients.

 

[dad2]

Not quite the whole story.

The WHO warned against a continued reliance on shots for the original virus, saying vaccines need to be adapted for new varients.

Right but the quote I found interesting was about saying no more unvax travel restrictions

Since the virus does and will change constantly of course using a vax fro the original (whose efficacy has faded anyhow) would be useless. But if they didn't work (and killed untold tens of thousands of people as well) why would any sane person want more and more and more and more of them? You might as well camp out at a hospital with an IV drip.

By the way they say booster shots weaken the immune system. How weak do you suggest we become?

E.U. admits frequent booster shots WEAKEN body's immune system

 

[dad2]

just put that on FB

I think facebook swats any truth posted on it and bans people so fast that it might be difficult.

 

[JonC]

Right but the quote I found interesting was about saying no more unvax travel restrictions

Since the virus does and will change constantly of course using a vax fro the original (whose efficacy has faded anyhow) would be useless. But if they didn't work (and killed untold tens of thousands of people as well) why would any sane person want more and more and more and more of them? You might as well camp out at a hospital with an IV drip.

By the way they say booster shots weaken the immune system. How weak do you suggest we become?

E.U. admits frequent booster shots WEAKEN body's immune system

Yes, the WHO advised against blanket travel restrictions for people under 60 years old and without health issues as the omnicron is already worldwide, therefore restrictions may be an undue hardship.

The WHO added those 60 and older should require proof of vaccination or proof of past covid and after General screening is completed all should be tested for covid and quarantined accordingly.

Doesn't matter on this board. The WHO is mot a beloved organization by the anti-covid-vaxers or most of the anti-anti-covid-vaxers.

 

[dad2]

Yes, the WHO advised against blanket travel restrictions for people under 60 years old and without health issues as the omnicron is already worldwide, therefore restrictions may be an undue hardship.

The WHO added those 60 and older should require proof of vaccination or proof of past covid and after General screening is completed all should be tested for covid and quarantined accordingly.

Doesn't matter on this board. The WHO is mot a beloved organization by the anti-covid-vaxers or most of the anti-anti-covid-vaxers.

What matters is seeing them change their tune as needed. To some that shows it was all (a bunch of hogwash) any how.

 

[JonC]

What matters is seeing them change their tune as needed. To some that shows it was all (a bunch of hogwash) any how.

I agree that they need to adapt to changing conditions.

I have to note that some have issues with this, at least when applied to the CDC. Rather than acknowledging the need to change based on avaliable information, many have considered this the same as lying.

We have to recognize the reasons for the change. It was not because travel restrictions or conditions was hogwash. The WHO provided the reason. It was that it has become too late for restrictions as omicron has already spread worldwide. It isn't that restrictions wouldn't work (per the WHO) but thay it would create a hardship that is unjustified because of the wide spread of the virus.

Currently we are right at the highest level if infection in 2 years. We are also at the highest level of deaths and hospitalizations.

But looking at ratios, the death and hospitalization rate is lower (death-hospitzation compared to infected).

I'm not sure how this will play out. More people are dying but even more are infected. So the numbers are worse, but the ratios are better - which indicates the vaccnes are effective.

I like the WHO recommendation. It's what I've been saying. Time to move forward.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

The WHO is mot a beloved organization by the anti-covid-vaxers or most of the anti-anti-covid-vaxers.

The WHO has been corrupt for quite a while. Just make an examination of its leader Tedros. Anyone using their common sense would determine that it is evil to its core.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Not quite the whole story.

The WHO warned against a continued reliance on shots for the original virus, saying vaccines need to be adapted for new varients.

At most the samients, (thanks Michael Yeadon) are 0.03 different from one another. There is no need for new fake "vaccines." But they will roll out more than a handful in the next several months. "This one will be just the thing. What? Oh, well, the next one will surely work." Big Pharma will make even more billions; the greedy spawns of Satan.

 

[JonC]

At most the samients, (thanks Michael Yeadon) are 0.03 different from one another. There is no need for new fake "vaccines." But they will roll out more than a handful in the next several months. "This one will be just the thing. What? Oh, well, the next one will surely work." Big Pharma will make even more billions; the greedy spawns of Satan.

I just look at the numbers. The hospitalizations among unvacvinated are 6x's that of the vaccinated and deaths among the unvaccinated are 14x's that of the vaccinated (as of Jan 2).

 

[RipponRedeaux]

I just look at the numbers. The hospitalizations among unvacvinated are 6x's that of the vaccinated and deaths among the unvaccinated are 14x's that of the vaccinated (as of Jan 2).

I simply do not believe it. And whose to say that those that have been only double-jabbed are now considered unjabbed, i.e. unvaccinated?

 

[dad2]

I agree that they need to adapt to changing conditions.

I have to note that some have issues with this, at least when applied to the CDC. Rather than acknowledging the need to change based on avaliable information, many have considered this the same as lying.

We have to recognize the reasons for the change.

That is hard to do when we are dealing with known liars. Didn't the lead Dr in the US get accused of lying under oath? New docs show Dr. Fauci has been keeping us from the truth on COVID
So why would anyone believe the so called reasons they give for having to change their story?

It was not because travel restrictions or conditions was hogwash.

Not according to them, of course not.

The WHO provided the reason. It was that it has become too late for restrictions as omicron has already spread worldwide. It isn't that restrictions wouldn't work (per the WHO) but thay it would create a hardship that is unjustified because of the wide spread of the virus.

They say whatever seems convenient for that side of their mouth that day apparently.
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Then there is the matter of WHO making false statements to achieve a goal of theirs. example:
The WHO’s decision to adopt the generic identifier ‘ swine flu’ was arguably a noble one, intended to avoid damage to the Mexican economy. It did, however, result in a raft of unintended consequences that rapidly revealed the decision was a mistake. Indeed, within weeks of the descriptor being applied, approximately 20 per cent of the WHO’s member states implemented a series of measures that exceeded, and thereby contravened, international norms (Davies et al. 2015). In late April 2009, for example, the Egyptian government ordered the mass culling of all pigs throughout the country (estimated to be between 250,000 and 400,000 animals) as a ‘preventative measure’, despite the fact that no human cases of H1N1 had been recorded in Egypt nor any reported outbreaks of H1N1 had occurred in pigs worldwide (Katz and Fischer 2010). Within days, the Iraqi government followed Egypt’s lead and ordered the culling of three boars in a Baghdad zoo (Karadesh 2009). Added to this, some 20 other countries including Russia, the Philippines, Indonesia, Bahrain and China imposed trade import bans on all live pigs, pork and pork products, citing concerns over the risk that H1N1 may be introduced into their respective human populations (Lynn 2009; WTO 2009; Katz and Fischer 2010)."
What Went Wrong? The World Health Organization from Swine Flu to Ebola

The WHO is involved with killing babies. So basically they are mass murderers. Thinking they might also lie is no great surprise! I notice it was Fauci who announced the US was back in the gung ho baby slaughter business.
Fauci: US to repeal anti-abortion rule on aid and join Covax vaccine scheme

Is it any wonder that those lying murderers are not believed by many people?

Currently we are right at the highest level if infection in 2 years. We are also at the highest level of deaths and hospitalizations.

I'm not sure how this will play out. More people are dying but even more are infected. So the numbers are worse, but the ratios are better - which indicates the vaccnes are effective.

No one is sure if the vaccinations might not be partly responsible for some variants either. They also say the vaccines reduce natural immunity.
E.U. admits frequent booster shots WEAKEN body's immune systemweaken-bodys-immune-system/


Then there is the numbers game issue.

example
Nearly half of Ontario’s ‘Covid-19 patients’ admitted for reasons unrelated to virus Over half of the people admitted were with unrelated issues!

I like the WHO recommendation. It's what I've been saying. Time to move forward.

If Charles Manson had said drop the silly hypocritical restrictions I would like that also. That would not mean I would follow other advice he had!

 

[JonC]

I simply do not believe it.

I know.

 

[JonC]

So why would anyone believe the so called reasons they give for having to change their story

I didn't read the entire article posted (I went directly to the WHO site to see what they actually put out).

Rather than presenting travel bans as hogwash they explained that omnicron was already world wide and travel bans would no longer prevent the spread. So they did not recommend travel bans because it would create hardship without actually slowing the spread.

They also said everybody needed to be screened, tested, and if covid positive, quarantined.

Regarding those 60 and older (and those with health isdues) they said proof of vaccine or proof of covid recovery needed to be required.

I'm simply not planning on traveling out of the US anytime soon.

I actually support health organizations reacting to changes.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

I actually support health organizations reacting to changes.

What's that supposed to mean? Do you mean implementing changes? If so, changes for the better, or just changes?
I'm not a Health Organization but I can react to changes too.

 

[JonC]

What's that supposed to mean? Do you mean implementing changes? If so, changes for the better, or just changes?
I'm not a Health Organization but I can react to changes too.

It means I believe that as information about a virus or vaccine or protective measure evolves health organizations should change their recommendations to meet those changes.

 

[dad2]

I didn't read the entire article posted (I went directly to the WHO site to see what they actually put out).

Rather than presenting travel bans as hogwash they explained that omnicron was already world wide and travel bans would no longer prevent the spread. So they did not recommend travel bans because it would create hardship without actually slowing the spread.

They also said everybody needed to be screened, tested, and if covid positive, quarantined.

Regarding those 60 and older (and those with health isdues) they said proof of vaccine or proof of covid recovery needed to be required.

I'm simply not planning on traveling out of the US anytime soon.

I actually support health organizations reacting to changes.

Great. In a perfect world that would be good. With organizations promoting mass murder and known to be liars and who require immunity from responsibility, and who try to suppress info from getting out, their words are worthless.

 

[JonC]

Great. In a perfect world that would be good. With organizations promoting mass murder and known to be liars and who require immunity from responsibility, and who try to suppress info from getting out, their words are worthless.

I do not buy conspiracy theories, if that is what you mean. I'm just talking about measures associated with covid.

 

[dad2]

I do not buy conspiracy theories, if that is what you mean. I'm just talking about measures associated with covid.

It is no conspiracy that drug companies that 'tested' the vaccines are frauds and have been involved in many court cases for injuries and false claims etc.

"Pfizer has faced thousands of lawsuits filed for medical injuries caused by some of its most popular drugs. It has also set a record for the largest fine paid for a health care fraud lawsuit filed by the U.S. Department of Justice. Pfizer paid $2.3 billion in fines, penalties, and settlement for illegal marketing claims."

Pfizer - History of Pfizer, Products & Legal Claims

It is also not a conspiracy that both the WHO and Fauci have stood for mass murder of unborn people. Believing such people is both a crime against humanity and a sin.

Jeremiah 7:8 “Behold, you trust in deceptive words to no avail.

Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ

Jeremiah 9:3 They bend their tongue like a bow; falsehood and not truth has grown strong in the land; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they do not know me, declares the Lord.


Psalm 36:3-4 The words of his mouth are trouble and deceit; he has ceased to act wisely and do good. He plots trouble while on his bed; he sets himself in a way that is not good; he does not reject evil.