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WHO says no covid travel restrictions any more

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by dad2, Jan 12, 2022.

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    Actually, he did a lot of good for Germany - at first - but then he went off the deep end.
     
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    Outnumber.

    But do you believe 137 people out of 87% of the population is a greater risk than 123 people out of 13% of the population?

    Ontario numbers prove the vaccines are effective. The unvaccinated are (by your numbers) being hospitalized at a rate 100 times that of the vaccinated.
     
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    If getting vaccinated still lands you in the hospital, what is the value?

    But why play a numbers game? You did not address bigger issues I listed. Issues such as how the WHO, and spokesmen for the vaccine agenda are dripping child sacrifice advocates. The verse about straining at nats and swallowing camels comes to mind.

    Don't try to compare the majority who are sick and hospitalized with some one else! That is a separate issue. Do you know why each person is admitted to ICU? Is is 100% due to actual covid itself or are there several other factors and they get listed that way because they supposedly tested positive? You have no numbers for that! You have only a demonstrated compulsion to blindly swallow the vaccine provocateur agenda. Hook, line, and sinker.

    One question for you is this. If the blind studies for vaccines (pseudo vaccines) truly exist, how do they make sure all subjects never get vaccinated? If people go out and get vaccinated, there is no long term test involved!
     
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    What Ontario proves is the vaccine helps protect you from landing in the hospital.

    Additionally, 70% of the critical covid patients are unvaccinated.
     
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    Why call them covid patients? Ha If they came in with a stroke and supposedly also tested positive for covid, would they be a 'covid patient'? You have no numbers. We do have numbers of simple admissions probably that could represent some sort of reality.

    "The most recent figures from the population of 4.4 million show infections, hospitalizations and deaths from COVID all soar in the days and weeks after people receive their first vaccine dose"
    Government data: COVID infections, deaths soar after vaccination
     
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    They have a different category for patients in the hospital who also have covid. "Covid patients" refer to patients who are in the hospital for vovid (for the disease caused by the sars-cov-2 virus).
     
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    #47 dad2, Jan 15, 2022
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    The way covid deaths have been counted screams out to us that the main voices for the agenda are not dealing with truth. The way numbers are kept for declaring people in ICU as covid cases is not to be believed. General numbers such as that an much increased and increasing percentage of sick people are the vaccinated are clear. There are enough inside whisleblower nurses and doctors to sound the alarm for us that something is very very rotten and evil.
    I think your sniffer is off.
     
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    It is interesting that you think there is a world wide conspiracy at play (as we have seen the vaccines prove effective workd-wide and not just in the US).

    I agree there is an evil present. I see this in how both sides have made the virus and vaccine political. Some profesding "Christians" have even condemned vaccines themselves as being evil (i.e., condemned God for the lives they have saved).
     
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    Interesting some still blindly assume that drug companies and lying mass baby murder supporting politicians have the best interest of people at heart as well as the truth.

    We don't have the big picture. God can use anything. That does not mean He wishes that we chose the worst thing. He works despite our mistakes. Most people I know are vaccinated. Some have drawn the line though, saying they do not plan to get boosters endlessly. I do not like being conned, and bullied and lied to and denied freedom and choice of treatments etc. We do know that this is the direction the world is going. Even if there is a real change and recognition of the evil and collusion as well as Nuremberg style trials we know that the future is the mark of the beast for the world. What many preachers I have heard say is that it seems to them like this is it. The world is probably already well down that final road of no return. Not just with the covid issue, but that other more severe judgments are to follow. Maybe war on a scale never seen before and etc. Looking at the truly Satanic agenda in Canada and elsewhere (unrestrained attack on children and everyone with true open wickedness) how could we not think that God had to step in? I realized this before the pandemic when I saw children being subjected to sex change treatments even against a parent's will in some cases. The plunge into irreversible hell for the earth seems to be on auto pilot now. For bible believers that just means we are extremely close to heaven now. For the world, the bible has warned what is coming for thousands of years. There can be no escape other than repent right away.
     
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    The difference is you are dead set on politics, governments, and companies.

    Have you ever considered the actual vaccines and the fact that God is a God of means?

    Think about it for a minute. God used pagan nations, nations that worshipped demons, to deliver His people. It seems by your post that you would condemn God for doing so.

    As far as the government goes, if you believe the Trump Administration kills babies then don't vote. We already know that's where the Democrats are. I don't vote for that reason.

    I am unaware of a medication produced by Moderna that is designed to kill babies. I don't know of any by Pfizer either.
     
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    You could insert whatever you like in there. You know, have you ever considered abortions, sex changes, swine flu vaccine, Hitler and the fact that God is a God of means?

    No. You cannot blame evil on God. We know what He is like.

    God did not ask you to use pagan nations did He? He advises them not to be pagan does He not? So, He will use whatever is available, that does not mean He is responsible for it.

    What Trump administration? As for voting, not sure that the system really works on a true vote system these days anyhow.

    You are referring to this
    "drug companies and lying mass baby murder supporting politicians.." Pretending that says some drug is designed to kill babies is not sane or honest. That was pointing out that governments and drug companies support abortion. By the way, they do make drugs to kill babies as well!

    Cytotec Oral: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions, Pictures, Warnings & Dosing - WebMD
     
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    Yes, you could. Are there any here who are blind to how the Holocaust was used by God? Look at Israel, look at Germany....

    God is an amazing God. He was not defeated by Hitler. Judas did not squash God's plan. He was not even defeated when Christ suffered and died at the hands of wicked men.

    I understand that the World is evil. But you are wrong to lump every drug company into a pro-abortion position....and even if they were, so what? They are not killing babies.

    In fact, Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer have contributed to the saving of millions of children.

    Do you believe those babies should have simply been allowed to die rather than use treatments developed by pharmaceutical companies that were approved by the government????
     
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    @dad2 ,

    I guess my question is the crux of the argument.

    Secular medical companies have developed vaccines, medications, and procedures which have been approved by secular governments that have saved millions of people, millions of children.

    If you were able to stop the parents of these children from using these resources would you be willing to simply sit by and see these children die?
     
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    Caused by God? That is the question. God could use a murderer of a child to get a parent to pray more or whatever. That does not mean God asked the guy to kill the kid!

    Yes. The ones making the drug used for killing babies is a partner in crime. The countries pushing abortion are partners in crime. The ones pushing unnatural sex treatments for kids are partners in crime.
    And the guy that killed that kid may have donated to Oxfam. So?
     
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    Again - you reason that governments and pharmaceutical companies are evil so we should not use the vaccines. You imply God does not use these governments and companies.

    But secular medical companies have developed vaccines, medications, and procedures which have been approved by secular governments that have saved millions of people, millions of children.

    If you were able to stop the parents of these children from using these resources would you be willing to simply sit by and see these children die?
     
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    No. I point out that He is holy and good. He warns people not to offend children. He tells them to protect the innocents. He tells man what is right and wrong and what sex we are! He tells us that one day some sort of mark will be required to buy or sell. He does not like that mark. It was not His idea. He does not like that final government slaughtering millions of His children (that got saved after the Rapture here). You cannot take any evil that fallen nations come up with and say we need to embrace it. It is better to obey God than man.

    And killed millions!

    It is the people pushing the drug company/wicked government vaccine agenda that want to force anyone to do anything here! They do not even want to allow choice. Come down on one side of the fence here.
     
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    It is important to keep things real (talk where the rubber meets the road).

    If it were your decision would you rather have seen millions of children die rather than use medical treatments produced by pharmaceutical companies and approved by the government?

    Would you chastise parents who praised God for the life of their children by telling them Satan saved their kids?
     
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    It is the people pushing vaccine mandates and vaccines for kids and endless lockdowns and theft of freedom are opposing choice! It is one thing to reluctantly use a product made by untrustworthy people, it is another thing to be forced to use it. When I see say, something like 400 million unborn people destroyed over a decade the people responsible would not be the first on my list to go to to save anybody.
     
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