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Lordship Salvation VS Easy Believism

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SavedByGrace said:
Really, then WHY does Paul say, "The times of ignorance therefore God overlooked. But now he commands that all people everywhere should repent" (Acts 17:30), which looks clear to me, that the sinner is here commanded to repent!
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Not of all known sins, but turn to Christ alone to save them from their sins!
 
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DaveXR650 said:
One definition of saving faith is that you renounce all self effort and self righteousness. But when you come to Christ, almost everyone knows specific sins that they want to get saved from. So yes they repent of those. Then you begin a life of growing in understanding and repenting of sins you didn't know were sins before you were saved. For example, a person gets save who used to spend half his paycheck at the bar before he gets home on Friday needs to repent of that. Years later, he may need to repent of failing to spend time in private prayer.
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Yes, agree with that, but God does not require you to give him the laundry list of all of your sins before can get saved!
 
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DaveXR650 said:
If you are willing to agree that faith is belief then notice that it is the only thing mentioned in that verse. In other words, it is "alone". All the verses that talk about belief in reference to salvation and don't add anything else are talking about "faith alone". In Ephesians 2:8-9 faith is actually pulled out and set out so you can tell that "faith alone" is meant.
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Jesus also stated many times to come unto Him to find rest, and that command implied trusting in Him as your messiah "alone"
 
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Servant of Lord Jesus said:
Yes, agree with that, but God does not require you to give him the laundry list of all of your sins before can get saved!
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Amen on that. The only requirement to come to Christ is to sense your need for him. I think it was Martyn Lloyd Jones who said that anyone who preaches the gospel correctly would at some point be accused of antinomianism. Even John Owen said that when a person comes to Christ they are initially concerned with Christ as a savior, not as king. But he warned that if you refuse Christ as Lord you are not a Christian.
 
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That's one of my favorites. It would be nice I think, to sing it in an actual Primitive Baptist church where the drum wasn't so loud that it rattles my fillings. (Sorry, just an old man rant).
 
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DaveXR650 said:
Amen on that. The only requirement to come to Christ is to sense your need for him. I think it was Martyn Lloyd Jones who said that anyone who preaches the gospel correctly would at some point be accused of antinomianism. Even John Owen said that when a person comes to Christ they are initially concerned with Christ as a savior, not as king. But he warned that if you refuse Christ as Lord you are not a Christian.
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I have no problem with that, but am concerned when reading or hearing "unless Jesus is Lord over all areas of your life, he is Lord over none:, as have any here actually submitted to Him in full as Lord, nothing ever being held back on "for ourselves>"
 
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