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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Revmitchell, Feb 16, 2022.

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    And quite naturally, too.

    One verse named the source of faith, the other shows how that faith is manifest.

    Both simple, straightforward and easy to understand, and both demolish your premise.
     
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    if faith is a gift that God gives just to the elect, so that they can then get saved, how can He justlty condem those who do not believe, as they are not given this gift? This makes God to be unjust. It is very simple to those who are not "reformed" in their thinking
     
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    Because it is against our nature. And attract like a magnet does not make sense in context.
     
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    Who are you oh man to question God? Who are you to say what is just when we ALL deserve hell fire?
     
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    Dude I am questioning your theology and not God
     
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    Look at the Greek usage and you will see that it does not need to have any reference to drag or magnet.
     
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    John 18:10
    Then Simon Peter having a sword drew it, and smote the high priest's servant, and cut off his right ear. The servant's name was Malchus

    Peter did not DRAG the sword or FORCE it, but simple DREW casually
     
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    No, read Romans 9. You are questioning God.
     
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    Now you just sound ridiculous. Of course he FORCED it out of its sheath. It didn't just find its way to his hand.
     
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    Oh right, the Greek "expert" has spoken.
     
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    So Peter did not use any sort of force to move the sword from its sheath?? :Laugh
     
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    Yeah his hatred of anything remotely related to reformed doctrine makes him spew absurdities.
     
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    You should never accuse God of being unjust. Your view of God's justice is skewed. Since all of humanity 'justly' deserves condemnation --how can you complain? He mercies some and he hardens those whom he wants to harden. As you have audaciously questioned God's justice you have also by consequence questioned his mercy.
    "You are only a human being. Who do you think you are to talk back to God?" (Ro. 9:20) Don't you dare put God in the dock.
     
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    Why would you need any force to remove a sword? It is simply removed
     
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    This is the way that the reformed pervert what people say. It is the WARPED theology that I question because it is thoroughly UNBIBLICAL
     
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    Something can't be unbiblical if that is what the Bible EXPLICITLY states.
     
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    What?? You must be joking, right?:eek::Roflmao

    The process of removing the sword doen't just happen. A physical force is placed on the object for that object to move.
     
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    Have you ever used one? I have and it is very easy with zero force required
     
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    You hate reformed doctrine so much you are ok with sounding stupid?
     
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    You need to take remedial physics.
     
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