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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by robycop3, Mar 3, 2022.

  1. robycop3

    robycop3 Well-Known Member
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    Other Readers, you may have seen on other boards or social media the rumor that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is the beast/antichrist, & his invasion of the Ukraine is the beginning of his empire-building. Let's put that hooey to rest now.

    The governing factor is, of course, SCRIPTURE.

    I have no idea what Putin's beliefs about God REALLY are, but supposedly he'a an Orthodox Christian who DOES attend church on high holidays & encourages the restoration of many churches destroyed when the Communists came to power. But SCRIPTURE says that the beast won't acknowledge any god but himself. Nowhere does Scripture say he will PRETEND to serve God. Yes, I know no devout Christian would do what Putin had done over the years, but does that make him the beast? Of course not.

    Far as we know, Putin is not of Roman descent, as SCRIPTURE says the beast will be, but his ancestry is not known before the 1600s.

    It appears the beast will be popular & charismatic, with many people admiring him & wanting to follow him. Even before the Ukraine invasion, Putin was not even admired that much in Russia. With the Soviet Union, he was a KGB member.

    SCRIPTURE says he will begin his world domination by making an empire from the peoples & nations that made up the first 2 Roman empires. There's zero possibility of Putin's doing that, as any attempt by him to do it would result in WW3.

    He has no false prophet for a sidekick, as SCRIPTURE says the beast will have. This FP can work certain miracles by Satan's power in his boss' presence.

    No, Putin doesn't come CLOSE to fulfilling all the SCRIPTURAL criteria for the beast/antichrist.
     
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    The True Antichrist... The rest are imitations... Brother Glen:)

    Genesis 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

    15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
     
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    Guess we can add Putin to the list. As I've said many times, the REAL antichrist/beast will be an extremely-popular & charismatic man, admired worldwide, with many people eager to follow him. The people will be like the girl in "Hotel California": "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device."
     
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    The spirit of antichrist reveals itself in many people. Putin, Trump, Biden, etc., they all represent the spirit of antichrist.
     
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    As John wrote, there have been many antichrists, & Jesus said whoever was not for Him was against Him. But just as there have been many antichrists, Scripture refers to one who will be worst of all, becoming world dictator while acknowledging no god but himself.

    Same for "the" false prophet. There have been, and are, many FPs, but Scripture mentions one who will be the most-false of all, as he will operate with Satan's power & be able to perform miracles with Satan's power, such as making his boss' statue speak or call forth lightning.

    I DO believe Napoleon and Hitler were forerunners of the true beast, who will make those past dictators seem as naughty toddlers in comparison.
     
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    The Reformed's Confession has decreed that that Antichrist is...the Pope of Rome!

    "the Pope of Rome...is that Antichrist, that Man of Sin, and Son of Perdition...whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming".
     
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    Where'd all that come from?

    What an imagination. You really are a wannabe prophet.
     
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    They were wrong. it'll be one man, not a whole line, & he won't acknowledge any god but himself. (2 Thess. 2:2-5 & Rev. 13)
     
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    Nupe! it's in SCRIPTURE.
     
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    Show me, from scripture that "the REAL antichrist/beast will be an extremely-popular & charismatic man, admired worldwide, with many people eager to follow him. The people will be like the girl in "Hotel California": "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device.""

    PROVE that this is not your imagination making all this up.
     
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    One of many antichrists. Donald Trump exhibits the spirit of antichrist.
    Dispensationalism really mucks up Revelation.
     
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    EASY!
    Rev. 13: 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast. 4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
    Rev. 13: 8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

    As for "prisoners"...

    2 Thess.2:9-139 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders and with, all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. ...
     
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    was there when he was pro staright marriage, israel, and pro babies and bible? Do not see spirit of Antichrist there at all!
     
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    Realize the vast number of Israeli's are atheists. Realize Trump has been married multiple times and had many more affairs, which he has said he has no need for repentance.
    Have you ever read Machiavelli's "The Prince?" It is time you did. Then you will see what Trump is doing.
     
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    The worst antichrist of all will make Trump, Putin, or any other person thus far accused of being the AC seem like a naughty toddler in comparison.
     
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    Reading Revelation there would be a better argument for the harlot of Babylon being the United States.
     
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    For once, I agree with you. As you say, Scripture is the governing factor, and Scripture does not support Putin as the Beast/Antichrist. We need to let Scripture guide our views instead of fear and imagination from watching world events.

    Putin's invasion of Ukraine has obviously stirred up a lot of Christians into thinking that maybe he is the Antichrist. Every day it seems that someone points to the news and declares that we are watching prophecy fulfilled before our very eyes.

    I'm not here to argue about whether Nero, the Papacy, or anyone else is "the Beast/Antichrist". Just wanted to put my two cents in regarding Putin.
     
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    The AC's empire will be built at first from many of the peoples & nations of the old Roman empires, & the AC himself will be of Roman descent. However, we can't rule that out for Putin, as his ancestry is unknown before the 1600s. But he's never been very popular outside Russia, while I believe the AC will be popular & charismatic worldwide, at least for awhile.

    What the Ukraine thing is, is part of the "wars/rumors of war" prophecy. I shall continue to pray for God's protection for the Ukrainians & for the unwilling Russians sent to invade their country.
     
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    If I may ask, how do we know that the AC will be of Roman descent?

    You are right in that we must pray for God's protection on the Ukraine and the Russian soldiers.
     
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