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    RipponRedeaux Well-Known Member

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    Regarding Luke 12:51 :
    LEB has 'grant.

    The following 14 translations all have 'bring' :
    CSB, CEB, EHV, ISV, NET, NCB, NIV, NRSV, Norlie, Weymouth, Goodspeed, NJB, MLB and REB.

    You are out-numbered in your contention.
     
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    The above relates to Romans 15:13.

    The NCV has : ...will fill you with much joy and peace while you trust in him.

    The EHV has : ...fill you with complete joy and peace as you trust in him.

    Those two versions are much like the NLT rendering.
     
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    The above refers to 1 Cor. 6:1. 'Go to law' is not standard English. Some degree of flexibility is needed instead of using outdated expressions.

    NRSV and CSB have 'take it to court.'
    CEB : 'legal case.'
    EXB : 'legal dispute.'
    NET and LEB have 'go to court.'
    NCV has 'go before judges.'
     
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    And no less than the precious Geneva Bible sanctions using abundantly/plentifully in lieu of all.

    And "the God in whom we hope" for "the God of hope" (earlier in the verse).

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    Grant is OK.
    I don't know whether you have BYOG lunches at U.S. churches. It stands for 'Bring your own grub.' GYOG is an interesting concept, but it might leave one feeling hungry.
     
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    Luke 22:40
    NKJV : enter into temptation
    NLT : give into temptation

    Luke 21:7
    NKJV : when will these things be
    NLT : when will all this happen

    Matt. 1:18
    NKJV : betrothed
    NLT : engaged

    Matt. 1:18
    NKJV : found with child
    NLT : pregnant

    Mark 12:20
    NKJV : took a wife
    NLT : married

    1 Cor. 10:26
    NKJV : and all its fullness
    NLT : and everything in it

    Acts 15:25
    NKJV : with one accord
    NLT : complete agreement

    2 Tim. 2:19
    NKJV : depart from iniquity
    NLT : turn away from evil
     
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    give a sermon = bring a sermon
     
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    I find 2 Timothy 2:19 especially helpful, because we don't often use the word "iniquity."
     
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    Nor do we use found with child or betrothed.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    Nazareth hardly even could have been considered a town, It was a small village at that time.

    And there was no such nation as Gergesenes (or Gadarenes). It was in the vicinity or region of Gadarenes.
     
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    Words have meaning. Iniquity is a great English legal term. Sadly, the AV translates other Greek words as "iniquity" that do not carry the same original meaning.

    Am I the only one to wonder WHY when God uses distinct Greek inspired words that many translations treat them as synonyms? Each has a shade of meaning and should not have flippant mixture of English words to "add variety" to the text. There are TEN (+ 30 derivations of those) for "sin" in the NT for a reason.
     
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    Has anyone here had news in their mouth?
     
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    Did you ever have a lot fall on you?

    Does anyone hail from a mean city?
     
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    Does the city of Chicago count? ;)
     
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    I think it was rather flippant of you do say that translators use a "flippant mixture of English words" to add variety to the text.

    Turn away from evil is just as good a way of expressing the old-fashioned term of "departing from iniquity."

    Face the fact that we don't use many older words and expressions any longer in are daily conversations. Do you despise what Purvey, Luther and Tyndale stood for?

    People around the world use English as a second or third language. If you appreciate a certain Bible translation so much --- you'd want not only those people, but folks from America, Canada, Australia and England who come from unchurched backgrounds to understand the text. The NKJV and ESV fail to communicate in a clear manner.
     
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    Has anyone come before your face without actually coming before your face?

    Does anyone have heavy ears?
     
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    Does the fictional character "Dumbo the Elephant" count? ;)
     
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    Are you claiming the ESV NEVER uses synonyms?

    And, if it does, does that bother you?
     
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    And you think that's the same thing, do you? :rolleyes:
     
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