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So who decides if his interpretation of Scripture is correct or if yours is?

Once again, if you both are using the Scriptures to make your case, what does that say about the ability to resolve exegetical and doctrinal disagreements using Scripture alone?

 

@Campion,
When there are multiple issues underlying different interpretations of the same texts. Someone on either side an argument needs identify the points of disagreement. Unfortunately this is not done.

 

I doubt there is any help at this stage for BF52 as far as changing his mind is concerned. However, Paul and the other apostles "contended" for the faith. Jude said it was needful to contend for it. Paul engaged in great contention in Acts 14. False teachers are to be marked and avoided. As long as false teachers are leading the simple astray in the name of truth there must needs be contention.

Hyper Calvinism is a powerful tool in the tool box of the adversary and it leads many astray. It matters what one teaches about God. His words must be believed and the context of those words must be honored. I am glad for men like Silverhair who knows this.

 

@JD731,
When possible to help correct mistaken points of view. How best to deal with deal with disagreement.

 

It is not interpretation, it is just reading what the text says. The real problem we run into is when people add in their own ideas to scripture.

 

With patience, which I am lacking by times, and by pointing them back to scripture. It is only the word of God that will show a person the error in their thinking. We must remember that even those we disagree with are loved by God as His children.

 

Yep when they trust in Him He gives them repentance & forgiveness of sins or do you think that God saves those that do not trust in Him?

 

You still do not get it do you. The bible is not one liners as you seem to think. You, as a calvinist, take verses in isolation that you think will support your view. You do not see the offer of salvation in this verse? One man sinned, we die. One man was righteous and through Him we can live. So looks like an offer to me.

 

Did you actually read what I posted or do you just jump to conclusions as soon as you see the word condition. You really do have a struggle with scripture don't you.

 

It's clearly interpretation because you understand the passage to be something other than what the other poster's understanding is.

So again, if both of you are using the Scriptures to make your case, what does that say about the ability to resolve exegetical and doctrinal disagreements using Scripture alone?

 

But if someone is reading the same text and has a completely (and sometimes direct opposite and contradictory) interpretation of another person, how do we know who is right and who is in error?

What does that say about the ability to resolve exegetical and doctrinal disagreements using Scripture alone?

 

It is an error to accept one as Christian who refuses the fundamentals of the faith whether it is to a greater or a lesser extent. Hyper Calvinists admits they do not believe the words of scripture as BF52 did in a post above when he stated there is no value in acknowledging ethnicity in the scriptures. Such an attitude can lead nowhere but to private interpretation.

The hyper Calvinists are wrong about why Our Lord Jesus came into the world and how sinners can be saved from the penalty of their sins, which is the second death in the lake of fire. The Hyper Calvinist teaching is that being born again is available to a certain class of sinners only and to ones who do not have the natural capacity to believe and choose. Their words express their unbelief every day.

Matthew 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. (See context)

 

When someone puts a meaning onto a word that the word does not have it is not interpretation it is being disingenuous. Example
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

There is a certain group that insist that "world" really means "all the elect". They have to do this to fit their theology which is counter to the bible.

And again the exegetical and doctrinal disagreements would mostly disappear if we did not have some trying to add special understand to words and phrases in the bible. So it comes back to just reading the text of the bible as the Holy Spirit wanted it to be written.

 

I would have to say that from my point of view all are children of God those that are saved I call the sons and daughters of God. While I strongly disagree with calvinism as I see it as an abuse of scripture, at the same time I can look at the calvinist and see that for the most part they truly want to know God.

Since none of us has a prefect understanding of God I think that we will all find that we were wrong on some points.