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I read your OP and that is where you say that Christ dies for those th

I read the OP and see where you said this "What the death of Christ accomplished of its own merit for all those that He offered Himself in behalf of" and as I show you Christ came to save all
or do you not agree with the text of the bible?
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,
1Ti 2:4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

So that is why I asked if you hold to a universalist view. But since I do not think you are one, could be wrong though, I don't see how your view, as you present it, even comes close to what the bible says.

The bible tells us that Christ Jesus is the "Savior of all men" and yet by what you write you say that is wrong. How do you square that circle?

 

When Christ Jesus died on the cross He paid the sin debt but if He was not risen then we would still be in our sin.
1Co_15:17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins.

The fact that Christ Jesus covered our sins does not equate to us not being held responsible for our sins. If we do not accept Christ Jesus as Lord and savoiur then we will be the ones to pay for our sins. In other words what Christ Jesus did was sufficient to expiate all man kinds sins but it is only efficient for those that trust in Him for their salvation.

The question you have to answer is, "who did Christ Jesus die for"
1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
1Jn 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

Notice the requirement stated here.
Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

So that there is no misunderstanding on your part. The death of Christ Jesus saved no one, it paid the sin debt. When He was risen then it made everyone saveable, those that believe are those that are saved. Those that do not believe are not saved.

 

What is not commonly understood was Christ had two deaths on the cross. One was to pay the sin debt and the physical death for resurrection to show the sin debt was paid as stated.

 

Do you have a problem understanding what I wrote? Yes or No The answer to your question was very clear. If English is not your first language then I can see that you might have a problem but other that that why the silly questions.

 

But if you make the statements that you do and they do not agree with the bible text then do you not see that you have a problem with what you are saying.

 

Further to what I had said. You wrote: "This offering was not for all in the World without exception, but is qualified to only those who are set apart or sanctified legally and then experimentally"

How do you square your statement with:
1Ti 4:10 For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.
1Jn 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

You are in clear contradiction with the bible. You have to read into scripture what you want to find because it is not in the text.

So do you see that you are misreading scripture? Yes or No

 

Then answer the question as no insult was intended. My answer was in the reply I made. If you can not understand it then just say so.

 

But as the bible say, and you disagree with, Christ Jesus die for the whole world not just the elect as you seem to tthink.

 

Actually you have it backwards, the ones saved are the elect. Only those that are in Christ Jesus are the elect and you get to be in Christ when you trust in Him for salvation not before.
Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,

 

Having read through your post, what I find is just what I expected to be there.

You make many broad brush assumptions because of the theological lens that you look through. The fact that the bible does not support your view does not seem to matter to you.

Taking text out of context and adding your own spin to the words does not make them right. I have shown you a number of scriptures that show your error but you just ignore them. That is your choice.

 

Please learn how to read. You insist on twisting a clear text into something that is unreadable.

even so by the righteousness of one {Christ Jesus} the free gift {Salvation} came upon all {not just some} men unto justification of life.

Pleas note the following text:

1Jn 2:2 and He Himself {Christ Jesus} is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

And why does He do this for us:
1Ti 4:9 It is a trustworthy statement deserving full acceptance. 10 For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.

You want to limit those that are saved to your select group but the bible tells us that salvation is possible for anyone if they will just believe, or do you not trust scripture?
Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,