Featured Good In Bad People?

Then God recognizes the sinner as pre-eminent, right.

 

@SavedByGrace ??

 

Mark 10:18
And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.

Except by the substitutionary work of Christ, my wretchedness is equal to any unredeemed person.
We are corrupted in our nature, thus we need purification, which is only in Christ.

 

I think Paul makes this clear in Philippians as well when he details his past life before his conversion. Everything he though he had accomplished, everything he thought he had done was nothing but rubbish.

 

What is meant by purification? What happens in purification?

 

Let’s take a step back….Are you claiming that man’s obedience is just as guaranteed and decreed as his regeneration?

 

Total depravity does not mean that we always will be doing the worst things, that we cannot do any good works, its just that sinners will never do anything without being motivated for "what they can get" out of it, and that none will seek the true God, but have own self made religion of the god of their own making!

 

We are washed, made clean. Read of Jesus washing the disciples feet before the last supper. There he was establishing them as priests who were clean because the High Priest (himself) is clean.
It is only in Christ that we are clean before God. If God has not redeemed us and placed us in Christ...we are not clean.

Now, humans can do things that benefit themselves and consequently society. Their actions of care for others can often exceed the actions of Christians. This does not mean they are good people. It does mean that God uses their actions for good. But, the unredeemed person will always be acting in self interest. The redeemed may act in self-interest, but the redeemed can also act entirely in the interest of Christ,which is not possible for the unredeemed.

 

Honestly I don’t see how being motivated by what you can get out of it! After all there are rewards both here and in heaven to consider. But if the opinion is that we will all turn into Puritans after regeneration, then I disagree. You will continue to have temptation, you will still sin, you will continue to do evil things… that is man’s fallen nature , evidence Kings David & Saul, Lot, The Rich Young Man who Jesus spoke to, etc. in this world, there is always great evil being perpetuated by people claiming Christ… so again, are they saved or are they going to hell?

 

Can you show me scripture to prove that the unredeemed can not act in Christs behalf? Are you familiar with Emperor Constantine?

 

Perhaps you have problems with expressing yourself clearly.

 

lol read the passage.