Featured Using Wine in the Lord's Supper

Our church has, to my knowledge, always used wine at the Lord's supper per the pattern of the original observance.

We do not announce it as we practice closed communion and the members already know.

We use a common cup and each member only takes a small drink.

 

In a case like that, we would announce that we practice closed communion and that only the members of our particular body were permitted to observe it.

We are a very small congregation and the member serving the bread and wine would not offer it to the visitor. I know this may create a problem in large congregations, but the members should make effort to know one another.

 

An egotistical practice held over from Catholicism.

 

Since we are commanded to not eat with a member who is under sanctions (1 Cor 5:11), how do you know that a stranger, who comes into your assembly, is in good standing with their church, or even if they are a member of a church, or have even made a profession of faith?

To let someone partake of the Lord's supper who has no knowledge of the meaning or significance of the observance is to assist them in eating or drinking unworthily. 1Cor 11:29 says, "For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation unto himself, not discerning the Lord's body." In doing so, their blood is on your hands.

The body of which they are or should be a member is the best way to discern the status and life of that member. Is he a brother who rejoiced in the admonition of another brother and was turned from error or is he a member of a church which has excluded him and is to be considered as a heathen man and a publican? (Matthew 18:15-19

I will assume you are a member of a Baptist body somewhere. Would your church administer the Lord's supper to such a one considered a heathen man and publican?

Does your church practice biblical discipline or do you consider it also to be an egotistical practice held over from catholicism?

 

Absolutely. But unlike many churches today, when it is revealed, we have and will deal with it according to the directions Christ has given to his church in Mt 18

The church is not an enabler in the case of sin that is hidden versus being responsible for known sin that is ignored.

 

The Greek word translated wine is nowhere used at the Lord's remembrance in the written word. ". . . But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom. . . ." -- Matthew 26:29.

 

The observance of the Passover used wine. There is no reason to believe that Christ changed it at the observance of the Lord's supper.

 

Brother Salty, Would your church allow the brother charged with fornication in 1 Cor 5 to observe the Lord's supper if he remained unrepentant?

 

False.
Unpasteurized grape juice is the wine Jesus made water into. And the new wine put in new wine skins.

 

Modern grape juice is pasteurized. And refrigerated after opening.

 

The example in Matthew 18 is clearly an example where counseling failed. He would not hear the first brother, nor the two or three witnesses. The brother in the first example was rejected in his counsel. The church was not to informed at that time in an effort to save face for the offending brother. The rejection of the admonition and counsel of the two or three witnesses raises the effort to correct the brother in his error. The command to tell it to the church and its option to administer justice and correction, which is an act of love, can be seen in rightly withholding the ordinance from the offending brother. Only if he rejects the counsel and discipline of the church is he to then be excluded.

Provers 21:30 says, there is no wisdom, nor understanding, nor counsel against the Lord.

 

Brother Welch, do you deny that wine was used in the Passover?