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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Salty, Feb 19, 2023.

  1. Salty

    Salty 20,000 Posts Club
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    Those other labels - I would assume that they were low %'s. If so - then you agree with a few of their doctrines. I don't remember specific questions off hand - but for example if you stated that you believe that only immersion is the proper mode - its not just Baptist who believe that.- and that goes for any doctrine. Thus you will be agreement with other groups - EVEN Catholics In fact, I came up with 7% Catholic. (could be the question was "do you believe that Jesus is God the Son" Even RCC believes that.
     
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    Individuals have the free will to accept or reject God, and will have the opportunity in their lifetime

    Should say most individuals have the will to accept or reject God and many will have the opportunity in their lifetime to trust in Christ to some degree.

    What are the legitimate sacraments? A sacrament or Christian rite or ritual is something Christ commanded we do repetitively, such as be water baptized to proclaim to others we have become Christian, and Communion where we gather with fellow believers and prayerfully remember Christ's sacrifice of His body (the bread) and His blood (the drink). No action on our part is necessary to obtain or sustain our salvation, but our ministry for Christ can earn rewards such as being an effective witness.

    What are your views on Church polity?
    Members call (by voting) their leaders (Elders) and others designated for service.

    What action on our part is necessary for salvation? Our choice to trust fully in Christ provided that faith is credited by God as righteous faith.

    Must the individual choose to be baptized or should his parent make that decision? The individual must be able to make an informed and independent choice to be water baptized symbolizing his or her spiritual baptism into Christ.

    Speaking in a recognized foreign language miraculously was a sign and wonder gift to authenticate those presenting the New Covenant and has ceased. According to scripture, the next person able to perform miracles will be very bad indeed.

    The bread and drink of Communion are purely symbolic, our church uses crackers and grape juice.

    God created Satan and allowed him to rebel which was according to God's purpose.

    The Trinity is true, One God in three persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

    The government should reflect all the governed, both those who believe as I believe, and those who hold other views. But those who govern should not dictate religious doctrine, such as atheism.

    What did Christ's death on the Cross accomplish? Jesus willingly sacrificed himself for humanity's sins, in order appease God and and provide for pardon of those God chooses to give to Him.

    God alone decides who He will save.

    The Fall resulted in all humanity being "made sinners" separated from God in a spiritually dead state, corrupted such that we all are predisposed to sin, and unable to do anything righteous in God's eyes, such as to contribute to or merit salvation. However, God teaches we are to believe in Christ fully as our risen savior.
     
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  3. Walter

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    Episcopalian??? The Episcopal Church lost it's theological moorings all the way back to Bishop Pike. Not very accurate IMHO
     
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    “God alone decides who He will save.”

    Right. He decided to save believers.
     
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    Episcopalian…???
     
  6. Salty

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    YES - but ONLY 3% -
     
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    It says I’m 90% Puritan…no way!
     
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    I looked in my area …. In my state of New Jersey there are 30 Roman Catholic Churches in a 7 mile radius and one dying Baptist Church. Really, there is little or no Baptist presence to speak of and those that keep they’re doors open today are “aging out” so it’s just a matter of time. So what do you do if you are a Baptist?
     
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    Are you a member of that dying Baptist church?
     
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    87%
    "You adhere to the reformed theologies that stemmed from John Calvin in the sixteenth century

    (I, actually, adhere to the Bible theologies, of The Doctrines of Grace, etc., that stemmed from the teachings of The Bible, since Day One and the Creation of man in the First Week, etc, his subsequent Fall and his Redemption through the Sacrifice of his Promised Redeemer, Jesus Christ, etc., Who made Adam and Eve "Coverings of Animal Skins", picturing for them the Blood Sacrifice of Jesus).


    "The idea of predestination is central to your beliefs. You believe that not only is salvation predestined by God, but this election also is unconditional, and cannot be either resisted or lost.

    "As opposed to the Arminian belief in free will, Calvinists stress that men are born as sinners (total depravity) and that they do not have the ability to turn from sin by themselves (sovereign grace).

    "As far as church organization is concerned, you believe in a less centralized system than your mainstream Calvinist counterparts, although historically some Puritans did support a Presbyterian polity.

    ( They were leaving the Book on it, then. A New Testament church's Government is to be Completely Autonomous and Congregational).

    "However, Puritans stress the importance of religious freedom, with notable Puritans such as Oliver Cromwell being tolerant even to polygamist groups such as Anabaptists

    (a typical religious swipe at The Anabaptists. While some sects of Anabaptists may have maintained The Old Testament sentiment of "a person who has more than one wife or husband at the same time", to paint all the millions of Anabaptists, throughout time as immoral, maybe being done by their enemies.)

    from: http://www.victorybaptist.us/dl/books/baptist-history.pdf pg.41,42.

    "Who the Anabaptists Were"
    The Compendium of Baptist History by J. A. Schackelford identifies many ancient groups of Christians outside the state church or churches as those who were called Anabaptists.

    "On pages 107, 108 Mr. Shackelford says: “The Waldenses, Albigenses, Paterines, Paulicians, Donatists, and Montanists were all known as Anabaptists, from the fact that they rebaptized all who came over to them from the Catholics.”

    (at the risk of being burned at the stake, or being beheaded, etc.)


    87%
    Baptist

    70%
    Calvinist

    51%
    Pentecostal

    43%
    Methodist

    20%
    Lutheran

    0%
    Catholic

    0%
    Episcopalian

    0%
    Restorationist

    ...
    from: http://www.victorybaptist.us/dl/books/baptist-history.pdf

    "As Landmark Baptists, we know Christ set up His church in the days of his flesh.

    "We know *the gates of Hades did not prevail against this church.

    "We may not be able to find the historical connection fully demonstrated by which his church was perpetuated in history.

    (Alan's note: I've never seen or heard of anyone asking for a "Chain-Link Succession" for The Bible, but WE HAVE GOT IT, THE BIBLE IS HERE/ JUST LIKE THE LORD'S NEW TESTAMENT CHURCHES ARE, AND HAVE BEEN!
    Our Bible: How We Got It (1898) by Charles Leach.)


    "We may lose the trial (of **Believer's Martyr's blood, no less) time and again.

    "We may search in vain for the line—but it is there nonetheless.

    (Alan's note: "And the woman" (The Lord's New Testament churches, just like those of the churches of Asia, in Revelation)

    "fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God", ( ever hear of "The Swiss Alps", for one example)

    "that there they may nourish her a thousand two hundred and threescore days" (the symbolic representation of The Inter-Advental Period, i.e., The Age of Jesus' churches/ note this brilliant treatment of Revelation 20: The 1,000 Years of Revelation 20 – CPRC)."

    "It still exists. *His Word cannot fail.

    "As Landmark Baptists, we do not recognize as scriptural churches those which deny the essentials of a true church.

    "We cannot place these in the position of true churches while they hold forth and contend for ordinances that are not commanded in the Word of God. (Alan's note: and often, in direct opposition to The Lord's New Testament churches(?)

    "Nor do we recognize proper ordinances as valid when given to subjects not designated in Scripture and which also attribute to these ordinances effects which are nothing more than Roman Catholicism wrapped up in a new package.

    "We do not mean to imply that those who compose unscriptural churches are unsaved.

    "Landmarkers have never taught this.

    "We believe they are deceived and therefore we cannot extend the hand of church fellowship to those who sprinkle water on the face of a baby and claim this makes him a child of God and a member of the church!

    "We cannot receive churches that teach that baptism is essential to salvation and that men contact the blood in the water.

    "Nor do we embrace those as churches who teach that the elements of the Supper become the body and blood of Christ and convey grace to those who partake of them.

    "Baptists hold to the ordinances as symbols of grace already given not as a means to obtain grace.

    "Who are the Landmark Baptists?

    **Landmark Baptists are those who believe:

    1. "The commandments of Christ
    are as essential to the preservation
    of the truth of the gospel today as they were in AD 33!

    2. "That no man was a member of a church in AD 40
    who did not profess to be saved.

    3. "That no one was a member of a church in AD 40
    who was not scripturally immersed.

    "If these principles were right and proper then, why not now?

    "If these rules are now changed, who changed them?

    "By whose authority?"
     
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    They are all dying
     
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    Between 6,000 and 10,000 churches in the U.S. are dying each year. That means around 100-200 churches will close this week. The pace will accelerate unless our congregations make some dramatic changes.

    Link:
     
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    This questioners is for the birds…I’m a dyed in the wool Primitive Baptist by 100%.
     
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    15 "And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world,
    and preach the gospel to every creature."


    2 "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season;
    reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine".


    YAAAAAH HOOOOOO!!!!!!

    GREAT ANSWER!!!!!!
     
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    92% Puritan
    87% Baptist.

    About right. :)
     
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    "Remove not the ancient landmark, which thy fathers have set"
    (Prov. 22:28)(?)
     
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    I got this from: About Primitive Baptists - Bethel Primitive Baptist Church so, it might not pertain to you as a Primitive Baptist at all.

    If so, however, what does
    "(by means which He has ordained)"
    mean?

    "We believe that in God’s own appointed time and way (by means which He has ordained) the elect shall be called, justified, pardoned, and sanctified; and that it is impossible that they can utterly refuse the calling of Grace, but shall be made willing, by Divine Grace, to receive the offers of mercy. Jude 1:1, Acts 2:39, Rom. 8:30, Heb. 13:12, 1 Cor. 1:2, Heb. 10:10; 10:14, I Pet. 1:2, II Thes. 2:13, I Cor. 6:11, Rom. 3:24, Tit. 3:7, Rom. 5:9."
     
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    It means just what it says
     
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    But, when they say (and this may not be YOUR BELIEF):

    1. "Regeneration, New Birth, Being Born Again: These different terms define what happens when God quickens one of his children into eternal life. We believe this is done by the life-giving voice of Jesus Christ and is always effectual and irresistible on the part of the individual. This is done separate and apart from the preaching of the gospel and without any aid of man. (John 3:6-8, John 5:25, John 6:37, Romans 8:30, Ephesians 2:1, 2nd Timothy 1:9)"
    I thought, "the preaching of the gospel"
    WAS THE "(means which He has ordained)"

    So, I am without a clue about it.

    Thanks anyway.
    ...

    Maybe this is it; from their scriptures(?)

    John 3:6-8,
    6 "That which is born of the flesh is flesh;
    and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.


    7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

    8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is everyone that is born of the Spirit."

    The wind of the Spirit bloweth where it listeth
    and someone is born again?

    ...

    John 5:25,

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is,
    when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God:
    and they that hear shall live.

    The dead shall just hear the voice of the Son of God:
    and they that hear shall live?

    ...


    John 6:37,

    All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

    All that the Father giveth me shall come to me?
    ...

    Romans 8:30,

    Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

    Them God Himself "called"?

    ...

    Ephesians 2:1,
    And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

    You hath God quickened on His Own?

    ...

    2nd Timothy 1:9,

    Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

    God, Himself, called us with an holy calling?


     
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