Featured Christocentric Theology (New Covenant Theology): The Big Nothing Burger

What position did the Anglican Church take in all this? As I understand it, the Crown was apposed to CT to the the point of execution… in Scotland specifically.Of course, they were probably always trying to push agrarians off the land… Stalin did that also, curse his soul in hell.

 

OK so I’m not a Calvinist, a Reformed, a Presbyterian, Dispensational, Modern Southern Baptist, a CT or a NCT, not a Roman Catholic, not political yada yada. I'm a practitioner of Old School Baptist standards & practices ( though I’m not Baptized by them yet/ no churches in New Jersey ) So what position does NCT propose to offer the likes of me and/or of my ilk? Frankly, we are on our own scriptural trajectory.

 

Thanks Jon. I've always thought that the Law was a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ, as the Bible specifically says. But in that function it is also reflecting the true will of God for the conduct of humans, and that I don't believe changes. I certainly think the idea that since we are blessed with actual teachings of Jesus we should definitely follow His stricter application of the Law. I don't think, even as a Christian with the Holy Spirit indwelling you, that you ever rise above the need for the explicit Biblical teachings contained in scripture. Without those teachings you end up with what any Biblical counselor could tell you they face nowadays - the man who says he's a Christian but out of love for all concerned, doesn't see why he shouldn't leave an unhappy marriage and move in with someone he truly loves, to the benefit of all parties. Such is the capability of our human minds.

I'm not in any way suggesting that you or NCT teaches that, but I'm just giving the reason for the belief that the Law should still be used as a rule of life even though that sounds archaic. And, if it helps, the old reformed writers who did believe the Law was a rule of life indeed believed that the stricter interpretation of it, with Jesus as the teacher, was the right way to do this. No one has ever called for such a strict self-examination of our motives and inner thoughts than the Puritans. Sometimes they cause you a lot of pain if you read them seriously - maybe too much even. I do not think, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that there is any Christian denomination that teaches that the bare performance of the 10 commandments, just as written, is sufficient for Christian conduct. There is such a belief among the general population of cultural Christianity and we have all seen it - when someone says "I never killed anyone or stole anything so I should be OK".

 

Nah, not really, he just likes to use ten thousand words to say what could be done in five, like his mentor, Owen.

Good! God's civil law for today?

 

I didn't say that. I will post again on the subject as I have time.

 

When I was in second grade, we had our reading groups where we would sit in a circle and learn to read. One day we're going around the circle and each person is reading a sentence. "See father run". The next kid "See mother run". "See Dick run". "See Jane run". "See Sally run". "See Spot run". And so on to each one in the group. I'm staring out the window, dying, when after all this this kid goes "See Puff??? See Puff ??? See Puff?? "RUN" I bellowed out. "You don't even need a book, you idiot!" Of course I got in big trouble for that. Look. If I apologize for that would you leave me alone unless you have something to contribute to something I post. Honestly, I had forgotten all about you.

 

Lol...."Brevity is the soul of wit."

 

Then again?... I couldn't just break it up, then it would lose its flavor... Brother Glen

Romans 7: 9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

 

Excellent point!

 

ROFL, approximately 140 words just to say that to lil' ol' me.

 

Ahh yep. Out of curiosity, how do you know just who supports NCT… duh, I suppose I could always ask

 

FYI, there's nothing more concise, brief, and straight to the point than the scripture you use.

 

see I have several Baptistic Reformed churches by me but no PB church. I’m going to one right now but they seem very lax and I hate that… another one my brother goes to is trying to indoctrinate him into their Calvinist web. The rest of the dross out there … we’ll, Kum by ya gathering clubs and getting worse. Welcome to the North East.

 

Did you count?!?