Donald Trump Indicted by special counsel

America was MUCH BETTER OFF under President Trump than it is now.

 

Biden's telling little boys they can become little girls. He's also saying the people who correctly tell him he's wrong are evil. Children are being absolutely butchered before they are allowed to reach puberty. And before you go there, hormone blockers butcher children. Anybody who tells you the effects are temporary and can be reversed are lying.

Any professing Christian who would vote for him deserves to be mocked. There is no way I'll be told anything by any Christian identifying as a Democrat.

Once your party stops with the march to normalize pedophilia and adolescent transgenderism we can talk about how evil Trump is.

 

I didn't vote for Trump either time but I don't see how your statement can possibly be denied.

 

Fair enough. It seems like you subscribe to the theory that the Article II of the Constitution allowed President Trump "to do anything he wanted."

But if you have taken a U.S. government class at any point in your life, you should know that there are checks and balances to go along with the separation of powers. But you are obviously committed to your view, so I'll let you enjoy it until reality sets things straight.

But that whole discussion is irrelevant to the federal indictment against Trump, since he is no longer President.

 

Please stop slandering me with made up false charges.
Please address what I said. The sitting President has the power to classify and declassify because the power is his according to the constitution. Full Stop

 

So this thread does not get derailed, I have started a new thread with your concerns.

No I haven't.

No, that's a clever misquote. I actually wrote:

(1) Donald Trump ceased to be President on January 20, 2021, at noon. At that moment, private citizen Trump lost the legal privilege of viewing classified materials, declassifying documents, possessing classified materials, and possessing unclassified government documents.

Notice the words in red. Please don't misquote me for the sake of your argument.

No it's not, but if it makes you feel better you are welcome to believe it.

I was simply refuting your allegation that Presidents do not have a "right" to confidential documents. Both of my statements are true. (You realize that I am capable of saying the same sort of thing in different ways without renouncing my previous statements, right?)

They don't "take classified docs with them," the National Archives establishes a secure facility to hold Presidential records until the library is built. Then the Presidential Library coordinates with the National Archives (and the current President) to allow access, as needed, for the former President and scholars. The current President holds the authority over access to classified documents for former Presidents. President Trump does not have access, nor (to my knowledge) has President Trump expressed any interest in building a Presidential Library.

EDIT: After I posted the above, I did a quick search. I know you don't like fact checks, but perhaps this can be of assistance to someone else.

 

Dude. Really, Grow up. Stop with the "Full Stop"

 

I did.

"Checks and Balances" is the response. The Executive Branch is subject to both Congress and the Judiciary. Congress is subject to the Executive Branch and the Judiciary. The Judiciary is subject to Congress and the Executive Branch.

It is a basic understanding of the US system. Feel free to ignore it.

 

I have voted for Donald Trump every chance I got, and will do so again, because he’s not my pastor; he is a very good American, who loves America, and who wants the best for this nation. And he’s intelligent and gets good things done, including making America energy self-sufficient. He knows males and females are different and he doesn’t ramp up inflation. My 401(k) did GREAT with him and disastrously with biden. God used him to bless America. But obama and biden continue to CURSE this once-great nation. I don’t believe we will recover, and if a demonrat wins in 2024, you can kiss America GOODBYE.

 

This kind of response demonstrates that you don't understand the purpose behind fact checking websites. They do not exist to tell you what to think, they exist to point you to information that you can research yourself.

If you don't understand that, then it's no wonder you are so mixed up.

 

Once characteristic of the "taint so" crowd is they address how something is presented rather than what it presented.

Here again is what I said:

The sitting President has the power to classify and declassify because the power is his according to the constitution. Full Stop

Did this poster take a position with clarity?

 

I did not say the Constitution allows the President to do anything he may of wanted, so you did not address what I said.

Once of the "Checks and Balances" is that one branch of government cannot usurp the powers granted to another branch.

 

I understand your statement. It's the arrogant "Full Stop" that you use that I am talking about. Take a chill pill.

The "taint so" crowd is condescending too. I am addressing your manner as well as your words.

Yes, the president has the power to declassify. So what? What should I learn from you great wisdom in making that statement?

 

Once again this poster addresses me, with condescension (from your great wisdom) rather than my correction of a false statement made by another poster.