Featured Salvation in Two separate and Distinct Steps

because the Trinity said so

 

Calvinism does not say that. You do

until faith is expressed the sinner is under the wrath of God

 

Believers seek God yes

please read scripture correctly

 

W/o the preaching of the Gospel shall no flesh be justified

 

Van. Psalm 14 says the do NOT call upon the Lord

Matt 19. He was blinded by the world and not calling out for mercy and pity. Look a little further in the text

Romans
their heart was deceived and they were seeking works based salvation

 

Salvation in two steps... Step one God needs a man to save man!

Romans 5: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Step two... He sent one!... His name is Jesus Christ!

John 6: 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Brother Glen

 

But you are forgetting one thing... Man is the recipient NEVER the instigator... And you are right, he gave his life a ransom for all... All his Father gave him... Brother Glen

 

I can say that as I am not a calvinist but for the calvinist appeasing the wrath of God is irrelevant. Try again but this time from your calvinist theological point of view. You must have something that actually supports your view.

The reality is that under your calvinist theology our desire to seek God or to be saved has zero impact on the outcome.
For the absolutely elect must have been saved without him;
and the non-elect cannot be saved by him.

Do you agree with the above statement? If not why not?


Loraine Boettner
"A man is not saved because he believes in Christ, he believes in Christ because he is saved.

R.C. Sproul
If there’s one phrase that captures the essence of reformed theology, it is the little phrase, regeneration precedes faith.

It is your theologians that tell us belief has no part in your salvation but strangely that bible says it does. Now which do you think I should believe?

@Marooncat79 you are not even trying to answer from your calvinist perspective.

 

Nice answer if one is not a calvinist but since you seem to hold to the theological view, not so much.

 

@Marooncat79
you just keep dodging the question. Give me a clear answer to the question.

So I ask again, from the calvinist perspective, why did Christ have to go to the cross? Why is that so hard for you to answer? If your view is biblical you should have clear contextual support for it. Do you?

So you do not think that Ephesians 1:13 is true? What about Romans 10:17? Or Romans 10:13? But since it seems you do not believe those then perhaps you can show me the verse where God says your saved now I will give you faith. After all one of your calvinist theologians said it so he must have a clear verse he based that idea upon.

Loraine Boettner
"A man is not saved because he believes in Christ, he believes in Christ because he is saved.

You have yet to give me a single logical answer from the perspective of your calvinist theology. If you are going to say calvinism is correct don’t you think it would be a good idea if you could support your claim?

 

Come the Judgment, the determination will be one's name in the book, Revelation 20:15.

 

So you have a different text that you call the bible. Or do you just skip over that parts of the bible you do not like?

 

A comment like than doesn't even deserve a response and I have KJV'S older than you are... Brother Glen