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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Guido, Aug 21, 2023.

  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    What pagan roots? Are you referring to the RCC? Are you suggesting that RC Bishops like Augustine put paganism on a collision course with Christianity and thus it’s forever tarnished?!?
     
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    What about Nicodemus?
     
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    I show you all the scripture you point at and I explain God as the one who determines your days. You turn it around and demand that you are the one who determines his days.
    Every verse you share shows us that you are wrong.
    You have now taken to blaming God, if God is the King of Kings and you are stripped of your own rule. Why you hate God as your ruler is beyond me.
     
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    Check the history EWF.
     
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    He was not of the Devil, he was a secret disciple of Jesus.
     
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    You are the calvinist not me. I trust scripture you on the other hand have to twist it to make it fit your errant theology. You twist what I post to come up with your strawman arguments as you can not argue against the scripture I post. You just keep getting more extreme in your comments as you go along. But then again that is a trend I do see in many of the calvinists I have dealt with over the years.



     
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    ...not the same as blaspheming the spirit.
     
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    What’s the difference? No, I really want to know.
    I already have and was surprised this RC tendency towards paganism carries to Calvinists… then it must have roots in Dutch Reformed, Presbyterians, Anglican, Methodists, Episcopalian churches as well. Wow!!! All the major Protestant denominations. Let them sink then.
     
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    If anyone rejects or does not fully accept Christ, i.e that His miracles were accomplished by God the Holy Spirit, that my friends is the unpardonable sin.
     
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    That is quite an accusation to level at a Christian brother (hate God) maybe even enough to get you suspended from the board. Be cautious brother.
     
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    In a nutshell, context, but audience alone should tell the difference.

    Compare:

    12 But we beseech you, brethren, to know them that labor among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;
    14 And we exhort you, brethren, admonish the disorderly, encourage the fainthearted, support the weak, be longsuffering toward all.
    16 Rejoice always;
    17 pray without ceasing;
    18 in everything give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus to you-ward.
    19 Quench not the Spirit;
    20 despise not prophesyings;
    21 prove all things; hold fast that which is good;
    22 abstain from every form of evil.
    25 Brethren, pray for us. 1 Thess 5

    With:

    31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.
    32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.
    33 Either make the tree good, and its fruit good; or make the tree corrupt, and its fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by its fruit.
    34 Ye offspring of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. Mt 12
     
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    I see it, thanks
     
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    If they follow the calvinist philosophy then yes.
     
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    There are certain Baptists that do also… how do you label them… IE how do Baptists come to adopt Calvinism? Please advise.
     
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    Just as I said before, if they adhere to the teachings that came from Augustine and through Calvin then they are holding to a philosophy that came from pagan roots. That is historical and can be found by anyone that wants to take the time to do the research.

    As to why a baptist that holds to the bible as the standard of faith would become a calvinist I can not tell you. You would have to ask one that did as to why they did.
     
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    I know there,are Biblical claims. I personally have no source material for this alledged pagan roots.
     
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    You are fond of leveling that at anyone who includes Doctrines of Grace in their faith & practices but you can’t verify it as genuine other than to repeat that as some sort of mantra. could it be you who is in error and just using those claims against the brethren as a weapon of no consequence?
     
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    I would not say that anyone who practices Doctrines of Grace is a Calvinist but you do. No they do however believe in a theology that is exclusively God centered, not directed to self.

    Now it’s predictable that you will implement a dialog designed to accuse and offend. Go ahead, I will give you the last word.
     
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    Lol, sometimes he seems desperate to get a 'Calvinist' into one of his rabbit holes. Desperate like a junkie needing his fix.
     
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    Obviously but let’s not throw stones. There is too much scripture to support either position. I just choose not to be contentious.
     
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