EV's in deep freeze

When a gas station has no way to deliver fuel, would folks claim the car needing gas is at fault?

We see a lot of humbug concerning the faults of Mr. Trump, but not too far behind, is the humbug concerning EV's.

Here is a balanced article:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a14762411/how-severe-cold-affects-your-car-and-what-to-do-about-it/

 

Interesting and useful article, though the 19% loss of range on their "cold weather" 250-mile test did not impress, as it compared range at 56° to that at 36°. The average daily high in mid-January here is 25° and the low in the single numbers, so I could expect a significantly greater reduction. I think in this cold climate a hybrid would make more sense.

 

I suspect all those folks abandoning their EVs in sub zero cold, calling their friends with gas powered cars to HELP, couldn’t care less about the blame game. Their cars needed charging. And One of the FEW places where that is possible doesn’t work.

BTW, please link to the story where motorists in gas powered cars where stranded in dangerously cold weather because the gas station ran out of gas?

peace to you

 

No need to link to the story. When a power outage disabled the gas stations ability to pump gas (electric powered pumps) over several days, the cars ran out of gas. If you are not aware of this circumstance, having occurred multiple times in multiple locations, google it.

Here is one of many: Massive power outage in Taiwan sends gas stations offline, but Gogoro's electric scooter battery stations powered themselves

 

I'm sure that was an issue in the 1998 ice storm that hit NNE and PQ. At one point, Montreal was essentially blacked out.

 

1) Does a "decreased range of 70% mean a loss of 70% if range (i.e. normal 240 miles, but in cold weather only 72 miles, or a decrease to 168 miles of range?

2) LFP batteries do better in cold weather, but were any of those facts reported?

3) Are the articles claiming the range loss continues permanently when the weather warms up?

4) The grid struggles because of demonic Democrat regulation. If we went back the billing process of the 1950s and 60s, we could have built a robust national grid.

 

The power generation mix includes Natural gas (from Fracking) Nuclear, and renewable (house top solar).

I drive a hybrid and would consider the new Toyota Prius Prime with its 30 mile EV range and 50 MPG 200 HP Power-plant after that.

 

Here is an article on the improved performance of LFP batteries in cold weather.
CATL outs first fast charging LFP battery for cold weather but it's unclear if Tesla Model 3 or Model Y get it

 

If a person knows anything about batteries, they know the colder it is, the less efficient the batteries are.

That’s been known since batteries have existed. And of course, heating the car is a greater drain on the battery.

 

Taiwan? Lol!!!! Really? You link to a story in Taiwan?

peace to you

 

I can give you some anecdotal evidence:

My son drives a Chevy Volt (a plug in hybrid.) His house does have solar power too. His annual electric bill (year before buying and year after buying his Volt) went up about $150.00, but his annual gasoline bill went down about $4000.00.

Ask yourself, with the advent of computer assistance, and cutting of red tape, how long would it take Bechtel Construction to build a standard design plant on a previously approved site? (My guess about 3 years.)

 

You do not admit the lack of electricity renders gas stations with electric powered pumps inoperable?

 

You are attempting to compare Taiwan power electrical grid to US grids. The story you linked to, from Taiwan, says the electric bicycles (not cars) were running when the gas powered vehicles couldn’t get gas.

I guess the electric bicycles must have been solar powered.

I ask for a story, in the US, where owners of gas powered vehicles were left stranded, not because of weather conditions, but because a gas pump didn’t work.

Again, the story from Chicago is EV owners were abandoning their EV’s at a “fast charge” station that wouldn’t work. There are far fewer EV charging stations than gas stations.

Most power outages in the US are localized and are repaired quickly. Most folks could drive 40 miles to a service station that worked.

No need to argue. Bottom line, EV’s are built using child slave labor… they have enormous amount of heavy metal toxins that WILL leak into the environment when they rupture (like every other battery every produced will rupture), the batteries are prone to catch fire and explode, AND MOST IMPoRTANTLY, they are not needed because there is no climate change occurring.

They government is pushing EV’s. Friends of politicians are getting rich in the process.

peace to you