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“The sadly mistaken group” what a completely arrogant & ignorant thing to post.

 

So what would you call a group that have ignored the word of God?

 

Ignored the word of God, yet still professes to know Him?
Not informed or made aware of what it says on a given subject.

Purposefully and willfully resistant to what is written?
The same thing that the Lord Jesus calls them:

"He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God." ( John 8:47 ). <---- Not "of" God.

" But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" <------ Not His sheep.

..and the same thing that Paul told Timothy:

" Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith." ( 2 Timothy 3:8 ) <---- Men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.


My personal hope and desire is that this description fits no one who reads these words, nor who posts on this board.

 

So what your saying I would conclude is these are people that freely reject the truth and thus are not Gods' sheep.

But I was curious as to what EFW meant by his response to Van. Why is Vans' comment "a completely arrogant & ignorant thing to post."

 

I don’t know, what do you call your group?

 

You were responding to Van. So why the comment by you "a completely arrogant & ignorant thing to post."

 

John 10, Jesus tells them “you do not believe because you are not My sheep”

He does Not say “you are not My sheep because you don’t believe” as you are claiming. They do not believe BECAUSE they are not His Sheep.

This has been explained to you many times but you are simply unwilling or unable to comprehend this truth BECAUSE of your secular man made philosophy that lifts man above God by claiming God must respond to man instead of man responding to God.

Very sad to watch the same error repeated over and over as if thinking by your many words you can change the clear teaching of scripture and make the error true.

peace to you

 

Very sad!

 

And there you have the error articulated.

NOTICE… the words “they bring themselves to having a faith like Abraham”

And then… “When God discerns that faith like Abraham’s….” Then God responds.

The focus is entirely upon what the man does. God is waiting, wringing His hands, hoping and praying to Himself that somebody, just anybody might just might “bring themselves” to saving faith that He can “discern” and then do His job to credit that faith as righteousness.

Absolutely nothing about the work of God Hoky Spirit. Absolutely nothing about Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

The “gospel message” is refined as mankind bringing themselves to saving faith in such a way to get God’s attention so He can “discern” that “faith like Abraham”.

Truly, a man made secular philosophy that redefines the gospel, lifting mankind up above God, demanding God respond to their “faith”, ignoring both the work of God Holy Spirit and the sacrafice of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Pitiful, Just plain pitiful and sad

peace to you

 

I agree it is sad to watch you repeat the same error over and over as if thinking by your many words you can change the clear teaching of scripture and make the error true.

Christ was speaking to Jews that should have known who He was but they rejected Him. Those that trust in Him are His sheep. By your continued misunderstanding of scripture you have them being sheep/saved prior to them even knowing or trusting in Him.

I have shown you through scripture that your view is wrong but you just will not trust what the Holy Spirit has said and instead hold to your man-made TULIP/Dog philosophy.

Just because you deny the truth does not alter the truth.

(John 10:24-27) They reject the Son and refuse to trust in Him because they have rejected the Father.

Another way to say this could be "But you do not believe and it is not because you cannot it is because you will not. You have made the choice to reject me.

By your calvinist logic it is because they cannot as God had not picked them out prior to the foundation of the world. Which shows the error of your thinking.

 

I agree it is really sad that you and @canadyjd continue to ignore and deny clear scripture.

 

Again, you prove everything I say is true every time you post, you are simply so blinded by your unbiblical, man made secular philosophy you can’t see it.

Very sad indeed.

peace to you

 

It is you that ignores clear scripture. You put yourself in charge of your own salvation. There are many on here who have attempted to get you to understand biblical context but you just consistently ignore the will of God from start to finish. Well that’s up to you and the Holy Ghost, just please stop this unchristian diatribe to those who believe that God made provisions for our ultimate salvation.

 

The sad thing is that you actually believe what you are saying. You have fallen for the Calvinist philosophy hook line and sinker. The reality is that you are holding to a pagan philosophy and touting it as biblical.

You can try to runaway from the history of calvinism but the truth is the truth. The truth is that very little of what you say is true.

 

When have I said man saves himself, never. What I have said and backed it up with scripture is that man has to make a choice to accept or reject salvation through faith in God.

Gods' will is to save those that trust in Him or do you, EWF, not believe scripture?

So please stop with the diatribe that man does not have to respond to God in faith before they are saved.