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Acts 13:48 and Election

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Brightfame52

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Silverhair said:
Which means your theology is bunk.

If He is the first cause of all causes then He is the cause of all the evil and sin in the world.

So you have just proven that your philosophy is not biblical.
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So you dont believe God is the first cause of all things, you dont share the same understanding of God as we do Rev 4:10-11

10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

If God didnt create it, it cant exist to cause anything
 
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Silverhair

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Brightfame52 said:
So you dont believe God is the first cause of all things, you dont share the same understanding of God as we do Rev 4:10-11

10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

If God didnt create it, it cant exist to cause anything
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I do not agree with the errant view of God. I will hold to the biblical view.

God being omniscient foreknows all future events but does not have to foreordain all future events, as C/R's do require.

Now you are proving just how failed the C/R view is. What does the fact God created all things have to do with Him causing all things as your deterministic view requires?

Did God create evil and if so why?
 
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Silverhair

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Brightfame52 said:
You cant find in scripture what you dont have eyes to see in scripture friend
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What I do not find in scripture is the DoG/TULIP or your divine determinism.

You have to read into scripture what your man-made theology requires.

You are starting to sound like a Gnostic.
 
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Brightfame52

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Silverhair said:
I do not agree with the errant view of God. I will hold to the biblical view.

God being omniscient foreknows all future events but does not have to foreordain all future events, as C/R's do require.

Now you are proving just how failed the C/R view is. What does the fact God created all things have to do with Him causing all things as your deterministic view requires?

Did God create evil and if so why?
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Well believe this, God is the first cause of all causes
 
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Brightfame52

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Silverhair said:
You continue you push a Gnostic philosophy as if it is Christian.

Do yourself a good service and actually check out the foundations of your calvinist view.
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How is God being the first cause of all things and Creator of all things Gnostic ? Look Rev 4:11

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
 
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Brightfame52

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Ben1445 said:
In other words, all who are saved will be. It’s time to move the philosophy forward a little bit.
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All who God ordained to eternal life will be there, it was promised to them before the world began Titus 1:1-2

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
 
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Ben1445

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Brightfame52 said:
All who God ordained to eternal life will be there, it was promised to them before the world began Titus 1:1-2

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
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It is promised to anyone who will accept it. Whosoever will may come.
 
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Baptizo

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Brightfame52 said:
How is God being the first cause of all things and Creator of all things Gnostic ? Look Rev 4:11

11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
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There you go inserting your philosophy into the text again. Nowhere does it say that God causes everything to happen.
 
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Acts of the Apostles 13:47-48, For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
 
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