Brightfame52
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This comment is unreasonable, , no disrespect
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Predestination is a Beautiful Doctrine.
- Thread starter Alan Dale Gross
- Start date
I see nothing beautiful in a doctrine that teaches God gathering a select group and leaving the rest in their sinful condition without reaching out to them.
In fact, it's down right ugly!
Here's the God I know and serve, and He's very much misunderstood by a certain group.
Isaiah 1:18-20
"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it."
Ezekiel 33:11
"Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"
This comment is unreasonable, , no disrespect
Will I find the narrow gate if I disagree with you, BF?
This is hardly to the point of what I was talking about.Predestination and Election is twofold, one decree, some elected to salvation by grace, that's election of grace, and the rest elected to hardening and blindness, the reprobate Rom 11:5-7
5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 7What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
Brightfame52
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You seemed to indicate that all men receive grace from God, maybe at different measures, my point is that the non elect receive no Grace at all in the matters of salvation. God hasn't revealed Himself to all mankind that way. His revelation in creation doesnt count, that's not an redemptive revelation at all, Jesus must give special gracious revelation Matt 11:25-27This is hardly to the point of what I was talking about.
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.
27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
Since you are already saved, that would confirm that you were one of the elect of GodWill I find the narrow gate if I disagree with you, BF?
Since you are already saved, that would confirm that you were one of the elect of God
Lucky me, it could have gone the other way.