Failure to Grasp the Doctrine of Union with Christ, leads to many Error's

[Alan Dale Gross]

Those of you who do understand and believe the teaching, how have you sought to help those who do not quite grasp these teachings?

Chapter 26: Of the Unity of God

God's Eternal purpose

BOOK IV.
OF THE ACTS OF THE GRACE OF GOD TOWARDS AND UPON HIS ELECT IN TIME.

DOCTRINAL DIVINITY ~ BOOK II

OF THE ACTS AND WORKS OF GOD
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Chapter 6: Of the Everlasting Council

Chapter 7: Of the Everlasting Covenant of Grace

Chapter 8: Of the Part the Father took in the Covenant

Chapter 9: Of the Part the Son of God took in the Covenant

Chapter 14: Of the Concern the Spirit has in the Covenant

Chapter 15: Of the Properties of the Covenant

Chapter 16: Of the Complacency and Delight the Divine Persons had in Each Other From Everlasting

the Covenant of Redemption

DOCTRINAL DIVINITY ~ BOOK VI

OF THE BLESSINGS OF GRACE, AND THE DOCTRINES OF IT​

Chapter 1: Of Redemption by Christ

Chapter 2: Of the Causes of Redemption

Chapter 3: Of the Objects of Redemption

Chapter 4: Of Scriptures favouring Universal Redemption

the Covenant death of the cross

DOCTRINAL DIVINITY ~ BOOK V

OF THE GRACE OF CHRIST IN HIS STATES OF HUMILIATION AND EXALTATION, AND IN THE OFFICES EXERCISED BY HIM IN THEM​

Chapter 1: Of the Incarnation of Christ

Chapter 2: Of Christ's State of Humiliation

Chapter 3: Of the Active Obedience of Christ

Chapter 4: Of the Passive Obedience of Christ

Chapter 5: Of the Burial of Christ

Penal Substitutionary Atonement

DOCTRINAL DIVINITY ~ BOOK VI

OF THE BLESSINGS OF GRACE, AND THE DOCTRINES OF IT​

Chapter 5: Of the Satisfaction of Christ

Chapter 6: Of Propitiation, Atonement, and Reconciliation

Jesus as Surety of the Elect

DOCTRINAL DIVINITY ~ BOOK II

OF THE ACTS AND WORKS OF GOD​

Chapter 11: Of Christ the Surety of the Covenant

Jesus as the one Mediator between God and man

A BODY OF PRACTICAL DIVINITY Book 1—Chapter 1
OF THE WORSHIP OF GOD, OR PRACTICAL RELIGION OF THE OBJECT OF WORSHIP ​

@ www.grace-ebooks.com/library/John%20Gill/JG_Body%20of%20Divinity%20Vol%202.pdf

"Christ is the Mediator through whom the access is, and in whose name the petition is put up; and the Spirit is the spirit of supplication, by whose aid and assistance prayer is made: the whole of this may be observed in one passage; for "through him", through Christ the mediator, "we both", Jews and Gentiles, "have an access" at the throne of grace "by one spirit", who helps and assists us in our supplications "unto the Father", the Father of Christ and of us (Eph. 2:18), see an instance of a large prayer of the apostles to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ in (Eph. 3:14-21),..."

Election and Predestination

DOCTRINAL DIVINITY ~ BOOK II

OF THE ACTS AND WORKS OF GOD
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Chapter 1: Of the Internal Acts of God, and of His Decrees in general

Chapter 2: Of the Special Decrees of God, particularly of Election

Chapter 3: Of the Rejection of some Angels and some Men

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Which is just what augustine did in the 4th century and calvin and calvinist's have carried forward to today.

That is just pointing out the truth to you in the hope that you will come out of the 4th century pagan based philosophy and just trust the word of God.

Well I was saved through the word of God long before I ever heard of either Calvinism or Arminianism. Thankful for that.

They are not foolish Z. Why do you follow a philosophy that started in the 4th century?

The fact you will not even take the time say much about you. It seems you are afraid of the truth as it would shatter your calvinst world.

So you are now calling history fables, that is rich coming from you.

Your doctrine is formed by twisting the word of God and changing the meaning of words to suit your preconceived ideas.

So many insulting one-liners, and not a word of Scripture! You are not the only one who does it, but I think you are probably the worst.
It's not good and it's not clever. Did you ever watch the film "Bambi" when you were growing up? Well, heed the words of Thumper's mother: "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

 

[Silverhair]

So many insulting one-liners, and not a word of Scripture! You are not the only one who does it, but I think you are probably the worst.
It's not good and it's not clever. Did you ever watch the film "Bambi" when you were growing up? Well, heed the words of Thumper's mother: "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

If you had quoted both sides of the discussion then you might have a point but as usual I find with those that hold to the calvinist view like to cherry pick.

How were any of those comments insulting @Martin Marprelate?

If you find the truth insulting then that says more about you than you may care to admit.

 

[Zaatar71]

All you have to do is walk through that door by faith with a humble heart willing to follow Christ.

"Whosoever will let him come..."

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

[Zaatar71]

So many insulting one-liners, and not a word of Scripture! You are not the only one who does it, but I think you are probably the worst.
It's not good and it's not clever. Did you ever watch the film "Bambi" when you were growing up? Well, heed the words of Thumper's mother: "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."

Some religious persons hate the truth of God, and invent their own truth

 

[Charlie24]

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

How does God draw man, Z? How does God draw man since Christ, how did He draw man before Christ under the Law, and how did He draw man before the Law?

 

[Zaatar71]

How does God draw man, Z? How does God draw man since Christ, how did He draw man before Christ under the Law, and how did He draw man before the Law?

Good question;8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged

ezk:34:11 For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Psa110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

1thess.1:4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost.

2thess.2:12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

 

[Charlie24]

Good question;8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged

ezk:34:11 For thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Psa110:3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

1thess.1:4 Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost.

2thess.2:12 That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.

13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

This is how God calls us in this dispensation, through the Gospel message, worldwide.

During the Law they were called by the Law being a school teacher pointing to Christ through the Sacrificial System, the animal sacrifice that represented the coming Christ as the Lamb of God. But only those who came in contact with the Jews/Hebrews could gain access to this knowledge.

That brings us to those who had no law and no access to the knowledge of God, the Gentile world.

How do you suppose they were called by God?

 

[Silverhair]

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Joh 6:45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to Me—

Joh 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.”

Keep studying Z.

 

[Zaatar71]

Joh 6:45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from Him comes to Me—

Joh 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw everyone to Myself.”

Keep studying Z.

lol. a follower of Leighton I see,lol

 

[Silverhair]

lol. a follower of Leighton I see,lol

Who are you responding to Z?