Finding the right definition of a word in the Greek

[JesusFan]

Good friends kf mine

One was speaking for the other. He was told that there were a couple of women trying to seduce the congregation w tongues

Barry was like. Cool. Thanks for letting me know

He was speaking and a woman stood up and started in. He asked did anyone know whT she was saying 3-4 times

She said i was speaking in tongues

Barry says “let me interpret what you just said. You just said that you were going to sell all of your material possessions and give all of the money to this church”

That ended the tongues movement in Rons church. Very quickly

I am reminded of the time Kenneth Copeland on tv had gone into big time rebuking of the spirit of covid, how God now bound that sickness and Satan, and he blew his hot air and said was now gone, but problem was people still catching it, some even still die, after he did all that!

 

[Van]

1:1 The letter is from Paul and Sosthenes. God chose Paul to be an ambassador of the gospel, one belonging to Jesus Christ. [Interpretative Paraphrase]

1:1 Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes, [NASB]

My commentary:

1) Only Paul was "called" (invited to be) an apostle. This refers to the Damascus Road Encounter.

2) Yes, part of the requirements of being an Apostle of Christ is to be an Ambassador of Christ, But all born anew believers are Ambassadors, but we are NOT Apostles, chosen by Christ and eyewitnesses. (Paul was an eyewitness of a visible manifestation of Jesus after Jesus had ascended.)

3) Yes, God chose Paul, after Paul "called on the name of the Lord" for salvation and as an Apostle.

4) Yes, Paul was "set apart" to present the gospel of Christ to the Gentiles.​

And here are my comments on your paraphrase.

1) Well done! Part of actual bible study is to put our understanding of the meaning in our own words! This allows us to crosscheck our understanding with other verses presenting a similar message to see if our view is consistent with all scripture.

2) No, to be an Apostle carries a greater designation than to be an Ambassador. We present what the Apostles presented, like the difference between prophets and teachers.

3) Yes, Paul mentions his communication is not only from him, but also from fellow workers, in this case Sosthenes.

 

[JesusFan]

1:1 Paul, called as an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes, [NASB]

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My commentary:​

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1) Only Paul was "called" (invited to be) an apostle. This refers to the Damascus Road Encounter.​

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2) Yes, part of the requirements of being an Apostle of Christ is to be an Ambassador of Christ, But all born anew believers are Ambassadors, but we are NOT Apostles, chosen by Christ and eyewitnesses. (Paul was an eyewitness of a visible manifestation of Jesus after Jesus had ascended.)​

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3) Yes, God chose Paul, after Paul "called on the name of the Lord" for salvation and as an Apostle.​

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4) Yes, Paul was "set apart" to present the gospel of Christ to the Gentiles.​

And here are my comments on your paraphrase.

1) Well done! Part of actual bible study is to put our understanding of the meaning in our own words! This allows us to crosscheck our understanding with other verses presenting a similar message to see if our view is consistent with all scripture.

2) No, to be an Apostle carries a greater designation than to be an Ambassador. We present what the Apostles presented, like the difference between prophets and teachers.

3) Yes, Paul mentions his communication is not only from him, but also from fellow workers, in this case Sosthenes.

Paul was not invited, he was chosen by Lord Jesus, and was commissioned and had no refusal clause

 

[Van]

The simple biblical sequence - invited, agreed, chosen.

When Paul "called on the name of the Lord" he had been invited, and now had agreed, and then he was chosen as an apostle.

Many call it "Conditional Election!"

 

[Van]

Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, the gospel of Christ is an invitation. The outcome of our lives, and the lives of our loved ones is NOT fixed, the lost can be reconciled to God by grace through faith. Accept the invitation with all your heart!

 

[Martin Marprelate]

Ladies and Gentlemen, boys and girls, the gospel of Christ is an invitation. The outcome of our lives, and the lives of our loved ones is NOT fixed, the lost can be reconciled to God by grace through faith. Accept the invitation with all your heart!

Oh dear! Oh dear! Another thread is being hijacked into an Arm vs. Cal non-debate. Give it a rest, PLEASE!

 

[JesusFan]

The simple biblical sequence - invited, agreed, chosen.

When Paul "called on the name of the Lord" he had been invited, and now had agreed, and then he was chosen as an apostle.

Many call it "Conditional Election!"

Do not think paul really could decide not to do the Apostle route, do you think he could still have stated nope?

 

[Van]

Oh dear! Oh dear! Another thread is being hijacked into an Arm vs. Cal non-debate. Give it a rest, PLEASE!

Yet another off topic useless post claiming the gospel is NOT the gospel. Give it a rest.

 

[Van]

Do not think paul really could decide not to do the Apostle route, do you think he could still have stated nope?

The simple biblical sequence - invited, agreed, chosen.

When Paul "called on the name of the Lord" he had been invited, and now had agreed, and then he was chosen as an apostle.

Many call it "Conditional Election!"

Anyone can deny Paul called on the Name of the Lord, which is scripture, and falsely claim Paul was compelled via Irresistible grace. Except nothing in scripture says or suggests such nonsense.

 

[JesusFan]

Oh dear! Oh dear! Another thread is being hijacked into an Arm vs. Cal non-debate. Give it a rest, PLEASE!

Would love to see the Van inspired bible translation and His inspired Systematic Theology text book

 

[JesusFan]

The simple biblical sequence - invited, agreed, chosen.

When Paul "called on the name of the Lord" he had been invited, and now had agreed, and then he was chosen as an apostle.

Many call it "Conditional Election!"

Anyone can deny Paul called on the Name of the Lord, which is scripture, and falsely claim Paul was compelled via Irresistible grace. Except nothing in scripture says or suggests such nonsense.

So paul could have stated Thanks, but a hard no?

 

[Martin Marprelate]

So paul could have stated Thanks, but a hard no?

I don't think so! Gal. 1:15. 'But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace, to reveal His Son in me.....'
There is a general call (e.g. Mark 1:15) and there is particular call (e.g. Luke 5:27-28). Saul experienced the second kind.
Acts 15:18. 'Known to God from eternity are all His works.' The idea that Paul might have said "No" and then God would have had to go and knock someone else over with a blinding light, and then maybe someone else, and on and on until one said "Yes" is crackers.
Psalm 110:3. 'Your people shall be volunteers (or 'willing') in the day of Your power.'

 

[JesusFan]

I don't think so! Gal. 1:15. 'But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb and called me through His grace, to reveal His Son in me.....'
There is a general call (e.g. Mark 1:15) and there is particular call (e.g. Luke 5:27-28). Saul experienced the second kind.
Acts 15:18. 'Known to God from eternity are all His works.' The idea that Paul might have said "No" and then God would have had to go and knock someone else over with a blinding light, and then maybe someone else, and on and on until one said "Yes" is crackers.
Psalm 110:3. 'Your people shall be volunteers (or 'willing') in the day of Your power.'

Also make Jesus really foolish, as either He could not see Paul rejecting the offer, or else could do nothing about it