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Why Do Both Paul and Peter refer to The Jewish Foundation of the Church as a Nation

Ascetic X

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2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

What is the day after the 6th day for men? We call it Saturday now but they called it the 7th day. They also called it the Sabbath. God also called it the :day of the Lord in all his prophetic books. God said men ought to work 6 days and rest on the sabbath. That is what he did in his work of redemption. He worked 6 days and he finished the work and Jesus even said "it is finished." On the seventh day Jesus rested in the tomb the whole day.

They went upon a very high mountain. A mountain in scripture symbolism is a kingdom. the higher the mountain the greater the kingdom. Then Jesus was transfigured in their presence. He is described as he will be when he is glorified. The 3 apostles were there representing the church in this kingdom and they were enveloped in the cloud, representing the Holy Spirit in his relationship to the church in this kingdom of God. Moses and Elijah were there representing the OT saints and the tribulation saints who were resurrected from the dead. All those saints would hold positions at the top of the mountain. At the foot of the mountain were the nations walking in the light of the shining and glorious person of Jesus Christ. All three members of the Godhead were represented in the kingdom, Jesus transfigured, the Holy Spirit, the cloud, and the voice of God the Father who gave Jesus his authority.

This is what Jesus showed these men and he said it was the kingdom in it's power that they saw. I already know it does not matter to some what Jesus says, In this way the 3 apostles were eye witnesses of the kingdom of God and reported it to us so we can believe in the physical and earthly kingdom of God with it's divisions and splendor.

This kingdom of God is going to be visible on the earth during the 7th day of the week of thousand year days of God and he clearly says so.
Mountain in the Bible represents an elevated place where heaven meets earth. Jesus often went up there to pray.

Moses and Elijah represent the Law and the prophets.

No, God does not clearly say that the kingdom will be visible “during the 7th day of the week of thousand year days.”

You arrive at this opinion through your biblical numerology theory which is wrong.

As long as you persist in equating a biblical day with a thousand years, you will continue to err in prophecy.
 

JD731

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Mountain in the Bible represents an elevated place where heaven meets earth. Jesus often went up there to pray.

Moses and Elijah represent the Law and the prophets.

No, God does not clearly say that the kingdom will be visible “during the 7th day of the week of thousand year days.”

You arrive at this opinion through your biblical numerology theory which is wrong.

As long as you persist in equating a biblical day with a thousand years, you will continue to err in prophecy.

Ascetic X, thank you for your thoughts on this subject but the language of Mark in Mk 9 surely shows that Jesus is equating the seventh day of the week as the visible kingdom of God. It took place after 6 days. Also he thought that a mountain represented a physical kingdom in the similitudes of the prophetic scriptures and was a long standing practice of the prophets of old.

First, Moses said these things in Ps 90 where his psalm is dealing with the concept of time. He says in that psalm about God that "a thousand years in thy sight is as yesterday when it is passed and as a watch in the night." In Hosea 12:10 the prophets says this:

Ho 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

Jesus spoke to the rulers of Israel in parables, where he made some earthly thing represented a truth of God, after they sentenced him to death. When asked by the disciples why he spoke to the rulers from that point going forward in parables he answered that it was to conceal truth from them while revealing it to those who have his mind. God will not bring his mysteries to light to those who refuse to believe them. You may read about this in Mt 13.

Moses Psalm 90 is filled with similitudes. He deals with the brevity of life and identifies how long a generation is to a man. After all this he makes this statement.

12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.
This is good advice from the prophet Moses. We need to be aware of the similitudes of the days and number them.

Acts 3:22
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

The millennial reign of Christ on earth in time is said to be one thousand years long and it is identified in 30 instances over a period of nearly 900 years by 12 different prophets as being the DAY of the Lord, and always in the future tense. They are identical.

Having said all this to show you I have a Bible reason for numbering the days and this explanation is just a part of it, I understand that you have your mind made up that I am wrong about it, and that is okay. You have a right to your opinion and I respect that right. But I do not want to be perceived as arguing so this will be my last comment to you on this subject and we can continue as friends.
 
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