Featured Did those seeking to kill Jesus, doing the desires of the Devil, put Jesus to death by godless men?

@Martin Marprelate

A small sampling from those in the PST camp that do:

“…In the third item of this marvelous prophecy reference is made to a double bruising, the woman”s Seed shall bruise the Serpentï”s head, and the Serpent should bruise His heel. The last clause in this prediction has already become history. The bruising of the heel of the womanï”s Seed is a symbolical reference to the sufferings and death of our Savior, who was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities….”
A.W. Pink A. W. PINK COLLECTION GLEANINGS IN GENESIS

“…His sufferings and death; pointed at in Satan's bruising his heel, that is, his human nature. And Christ's sufferings are continued in the sufferings of the saints for his name. The devil tempts them, persecutes and slays them; and so bruises the heel of Christ, who is afflicted in their afflictions. But while the heel is bruised on earth, the Head is in heaven….”
Matthew Henry Genesis 3:15 Commentaries: And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

“…thou shalt bruise his heel—The serpent wounds the heel that crushes him; and so Satan would be permitted to afflict the humanity of Christ and bring suffering and persecution on His people….”|
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Genesis 3:15 Commentaries: And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

“…If it be applied to the Seed of the woman, Christ, his heel may note either his humanity, whereby he trod upon the earth, which indeed the devil, by God’s permission, and the hands of wicked men, did bruise and kill; or his saints and members upon the earth, whom the devil doth in diverse manners bruise, and vex, and afflict, while he cannot reach their Head, Christ, in heaven, nor those of his members who are or shall be advanced thither….”
Matthew poole Genesis 3:15 Commentaries: And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

And I will put enmity between {o} thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy {p} head, and thou shalt {q} bruise his heel.

(o) He chiefly means Satan, by whose action and deceit the serpent deceived the woman.

(p) That is, the power of sin and death.

(q) Satan shall sting Christ and his members, but not overcome them.
Geneva Study Bible Genesis 3:15 Commentaries: And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

“…Jesus Christ died to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself, and to destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil. Thus he bruises his head - destroys his power and lordship over mankind, turning them from the power of Satan unto God; Acts 26:18. And Satan bruises his heel - God so ordered it, that the salvation of man could only be brought about by the death of Christ; and even the spiritual seed of our blessed Lord have the heel often bruised, as they suffer persecution, temptation, etc….”
Clarke's Commentary Genesis 3:15 Commentaries: And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

“…Thou shalt bruise his heel — The part which is most within the serpent’s reach, and on which, being bruised by it, the serpent is provoked to fix its venomous teeth, but a part remote from the head and heart, and therefore wounds there, though painful, are yet not deadly nor dangerous, if they be observed in time. Understood of Christ, the seed of the woman, his heel means, first, his humanity, whereby he trod upon the earth, and which the devil, through the instrumentality of wicked men, bruised and killed;…”
Benson Commentary Genesis 3:15 Commentaries: And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel."

“…The seed of the serpent would bruise the heel of the seed of the woman. On the cross Satan bruised the heel of Christ, causing His death. Bruising suggests something that was not ultimate or final. Christ died on our behalf being made sin for us (2 Corinthians 5:21). He bore our judgment upon Calvary's cross and, in doing so, bruised His heel. Though wounded, the damage done to Jesus was not final, for He came back from the dead three days later….”
What Does Genesis 3:15 Mean?

“…Satan was integral in the betrayal, arrest, torture, and execution of Jesus. During Jesus’ final meal with his disciples, Satan entered into Judas to betray Jesus (Jn. 13:2, 27; Lk. 22:3). Revelation 12 tells us that Satan couldn’t wait to get his hands on Jesus, so that he could “devour” him (Rev. 12:4)….”
Why Did Satan Crucify Jesus? | Evidence Unseen

“…It was at the cross that Jesus was bruised. Yes, it was in the purpose and plan of God. Yes, it was God letting His Son be punished for our sins. Yes, it was the just wrath of God. But at the same time it was Satan who was inflicting these bruises. The sufferings of Christ on the cross was His bruise. And as I said, it healed very fast. It only took a few hours before Jesus said, “It is finished,” and in triumph gave His life up.

This bruise served the purpose of God. Sure, it was inflicted by Satan, because Satan was the source of sin. Satan was the source of the corrupt world system. Satan was the tempter who plunged the whole human race into sin. So in a great way, Satan is responsible for all of this. Therefore he’s responsible for the bruising of Jesus, even though it’s within the framework of God’s judicial purpose….”
https://www.masters.edu/thinking_blog/bruised-heel-crushed-head/

 

Well, if it is understood and so accepted that Jesus had received the wages of death when being forsaken by God on the cross, what had been finished, could be as paid in full to Him, by Him.

 

Yea, like the cockamamie notion that Satan was actually trying to prevent the crucifixion.

 

teleo does mean 'paid' in the NT(Matthew 17:24; Romans 13:6). The word tetelestai is the Perfect Passive of teleo and has been found on ancient bills of lading and other documents, meaning 'It has been paid,' or as we would say 'Paid with thanks,' or 'Paid in Full.'

 

Romans 6:23, ". . . For the wages of sin is death; . . ."
Ezekiel 18:20, ". . . The soul that sinneth, it shall die. . . ."
James 5:20, ". . . Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins."

 

Sin is not the wage. Sin earns the wage of death.
Jesus received death of His soul when He was forsaken by God, Psalms 22:1. Less the fire, Mark 9:48, Psalms 22:6. Jesus taught the death of the body and death of the soul are distinct, Matthew 10:28.

 

The word death means a separation from life in some way. And death has three ways of this separation from life. Not having eternal life. The soul from the body. And the soul itself being dead.

 

I do not believe you are correct, but I shall have to spend some time looking at my sources. All I will say at this point is that tetel (τετελ) can be an abbreviation for tetelestai just as easily as for tetelonetai.

However, teleo has some very interesting meanings in the NT.

Matt 11:1, A.V. ‘…..When Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve disciples…..’

Matt 17:24. “Does your Teacher not pay the temple tax?”

Luke 2:39. ‘So when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord…..’

Luke 18:31. ‘…..And all the things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of Man will be accomplished.’

So what was made an end of at the cross? Our sins, the guilt of them and their very memory in the mind of God (Jeremiah 31:34).

What was paid? The price of our redemption. ‘Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us’ (Gal 3:13).

What was performed? All the righteous requirements of the law.

What was accomplished? All the work that the Father had given Christ to do (John 17:4).

 

Obviously if the word means 'paid in full' it is only going to be found on financial documents, and tax records are more likely to be preserved than other records.

It didn't take me long to find the website from which you got your information, but I went a little further and found 'Precept Austin' TETELESTAI-Paid in Full | Precept Austin It is well worthwhile reading the entire article, but I will paste part of it for your special attention.

(4) MERCHANTS:

In ancient times when a promissory note was paid, the one holding the note wrote “TETELESTAI” across it. A deed to property was not in effect until it was dated and signed, and when this was accomplished, the clerk wrote “TETELESTAI” across the deed. When someone had a debt and it was paid off, the creditor would write "TETELESTAI" on the certificate of debt signifying that it was "PAID IN FULL". It is reported in several secondary sources that several years ago, archaeologists digging in Egypt uncovered the "office" of an ancient "CPA." In this office they found a stack of bills, with the Greek word "tetelestai" inscribed across each bill - "Paid in full"! (See next paragraph which gives historical support for the interpretation of tetelestai as "paid in full.) When Christ gave Himself on the Cross, He fulfilled all the righteous demands of the law and our "sin debt" was PAID IN FULL. The OT sacrifices covered sin but could never take sin away. Jesus accomplished what all of the old covenant sacrifices could not do. "In eternity the Son gave the Father a "promissory note" that He would pay the price for humanity’s redemption (see Heb 10:5–7+). On Calvary the note was PAID IN FULL. TETELESTAI!" (H H Hobbs) As Spurgeon said "There is no mortgage on the saints." Wayne Grudem adds that "If Christ had not paid the full penalty, there would still be condemnation left for us. But since he has paid the full penalty that is due to us, “There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Ro 8:1+).

New classical fragments and other Greek and Latin…

On page 78 we have a section entitled "L. Second Third Century A. D. From the Fayoum" (Fayoum is in Egypt) where we read that "The 14 papyris grouped together are receipts for various taxes paid by persons transporting goods on baggage animals from the Fayoum to Memphis and vice versa across the desert road."

Continuing on page 79 we read "The formula in these 14 papyri is with some variations as follows. It begins with the abbreviation tetel. (which in one case, f2, written out in full, tetelestai) dia pules ("through the gate"), followed by the name of the village; then comes the name of the tax of which there are three varieties, etc. (page 79)

This ancient manuscript substantiates that tetelestai was occasionally used to mean "paid in full" in secular (commercial) settings.

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@JonC,
Once again, when you have been shown to be wrong, you resort to insult. This is one of the several reasons why you are unsuited to being a moderator.
It is you who are intellectually dishonest and lazy. If you had taken the trouble to read further than the first website you came to, you would have realised that your confident assertions about tetelestai never being used to mean 'paid in full' were wrong.
Secondly, if you had troubled to read my post #115, you would have understood that I have not stated that tetelestai must mean 'paid,' but that the word has a wide semantic range which includes 'paid.'

Your problem, or one of them, is that you are interpreting Scripture according to your philosophy. That is why you have been carried away so far from biblical doctrine.

We have to allow Scripture to determine our doctrine - not, as you do, allow doctrine to determine Scripture and then stamp your little foot when you are shown to be wrong.