Does anyone really believe Catholics are Christians?

Posted by John 6:63: This got me to really thinking, “Why can’t anyone give me THEIR view of chapter 6?” Why does two educated Pastors (Bob Jones and Pensacola), have to go to David Hunt to give me an answer!

Here is my humble opinion of John 6: Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. The Word of God is the bread and spiritual nourishment we need for healthy spirituality as well as having Jesus as the source of all life. It is not literal bread as far as I can see.


How much other CRAP have I been feed: KJVO, all women should wear dresses, you gotta knock on them doors every Saturday to get on God’s good side and I could go on and on…

No one ever said to get on God's good side you have to wear dresses or knock doors. Christian ladies wear dresses because they wish to wear their best for God. It is a choice and NOT a biblical mandate. We knock doors because people are dying and going to hell. We do it to spread the gospel as well as other ways. We don't work to get to heaven. We work because we are going to heaven.

Get our motives straight before criticizing.

Posted by Gold Dragon: Actually, it was the Pope that kept the title of Co-Redemptrix from being official Catholic doctrine because he knew it would offend the sensibilities of Protestants/Baptists.

If that was his reason, beleive me. We take no offence. We realize it is a lie out of the pit of hell. If you don't want to end up in hell would be a better reason. Your false prophet the pope as good of a man as you say him to be, has led millions to hell and has joined them there. Mary helped alot didn't she?

 

Posted by Gold Dragon: A more accurate statement would be concerns about offending first of all Catholics who take offense to that title, secondly Orthodox and Anglicans who take offense to that title and finally Protestants/Baptists who take offense to that title.

Actually it would be any bible believing christian. The rest are blind and would just add it to their current state of confusion and blindness.

Catholics need to read their bibles prayerfully. They must come to Jesus in order to gain understanding of the scriptures. Once a child of God, He will lead them in the way everlasting. God will lead them out of catholicisim.

To say catholics are saved is a GIANT leap. Mabey some spiritual infants that haven't yet been fed enough. But christians as practising catholics is like oil and water. They don't mix.

 

Catholics are not christians. To say they can be saved in the catholic church is erroneous. First you must come to Christ as a sinner plus nothing. No works, baptisim etc. You must come to the correct Christ which is not present in the catholic church.

It's like saying I can be a mormon and be saved. Their Christ is brother to Lucifer and an angel. Praying to that christ as a repentant sinner gets you nothing.

Posted by AVL1984: My step uncle doesn't believe this. But, he believes God has called him to stay there to witness to others, including the priests.

Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

God shows all men the truth if they want it. You must seek God to find Him

Luke 20:46
Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

The above verse is what the false catholic priests enjoy today.

Baltimore Catechism Part 2 Lesson 24 266.: Q. How is the Mass the same sacrifice as that of the
Cross?

A. The Mass is the same sacrifice as that of the Cross because the
offering and the priest are the same-Christ our Blessed Lord; and the ends for
which the sacrifice of the Mass is offered are the same as those of the
sacrifice of the Cross.

The bible says there is no more sacrifice for sin! Heb.10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Heb.10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

There are no real priests in the world today.

Heb. 7:22-24 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

Heb.5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

The reason the catholics ordain priests is to replace the ones that die. Christ continues as our high priest forever because he won't die. A priests function is to make sacrifice for sin. There is no more sacrifice for sin. Jesus paid it all. Since he will not die and there is no more sacrifice for sin, there is no more priesthood other than Christ.

The christ the catholic priests pray to is a christ continually sacrificed. And anyone who sits under this false christ no matter how fervent their prayers, cannot be saved.

Romans 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

If they are, they are COMMANDED to leave. God will make His salvation available to all that truly seek Him!

 

Posted by AVL1984: So, why the long rant?

Sorry if it seemed that way. But you said: Why they are staying in the catholic church I will never understand, but I do believe that there are many that are saved.

I am only saying that there are alot of folks these days thinking you can be a christian and catholic simultaneously. I don't believe that because the catholic church is under the lordship of Satan himself. By it's very design it is to keep people out of heaven. So by believing a catholic to be christian is simply another deception.

As far as your uncle is concerned, if he is saved, he obviously doesn't understand the mass or he wouldn't go to it. The bible teaches we cannot serve two masters. As the Lord teaches him I am sure he will come around.

 

Posted by gb93433: Catholics are saved just like any other Baptist.

What? If that is what you choose to beleive then go for it my friend. It's America after all.

I will grant you that many professions in baptist churches may not be legitemate. But you or I cannot say how many are or are not. I was saved on a Wednesday night service 35 years ago during an invitation. A person has a better chance of being saved listening to the plan of salvation than listening to catholic hogwash.

I will grant you that most of the churches I have seen do a poor job of following up. That's sad.

Posted by gb93433:So are you saying God in his sovereignty cannot save anyone from where they are?

Not at all. If you have read any of my other posts you would see that I believe God will exhort the new Christian to leave catholicisim after they receive the truth of His word. The truth does set us free, does it not?

 

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