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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    Before regeneration we are dead in sin, no spiritual life Eph 2:1,5
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    Faithfulness to God is a concept deeply rooted in religious belief, emphasizing steadfast loyalty, unwavering trust, and obedience to God's will. It means believing in God's promises, even when they seem unlikely, and consistently acting in accordance with His teachings. This includes living a...
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    So are you saying Faith isnt a fruit of the Spirit according to Gal 5:22 ? Now who is denying Gods plain word ? Can you explain how a person with the Holy Spirit fruit of faithfulness, didnt have the fruit of Faith ?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    Before regeneration we are dead in sin, alienated from the life of God, practically without hope Eph 2:12 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: What...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    He does more than initiate salvation, He goes all the way and saves.
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    So are you saying Faith isnt a fruit of the Spirit according to Gal 5:22 ? Now who is denying Gods plain word ?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    Man by nature can't by his own freewill ability come to Christ because all men by nature are spiritually dead in [in the sphere of] trespasses and sins. Speaking of Gods elect Paul writes of them by nature Eph 2:1-3 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in...
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    So are you telling me that Faith is not a fruit of the Spirit as per Gal 5:22 ? So is it from the flesh ?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    An action is something you do. Websters: a thing done : deed okay and also: : Performance of a action is a work! @Silverhair Its something man does, an action of his. God doesnt believe in Christ for an individual, the individual believes.
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    But Gal 5:22 says Faith is a fruit of the Spirit. Do you deny that ?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    @Paleouss No, not the unsaved natural man. Thats what Jesus is talking about in Jn 6:44. Do you agree with this: Performance of a action is a work!
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    John 1:12-13 revisited.

    @Dave... But Faith is the result of the Spirit, faith is the fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22. Surely you dont believe Faith in salvation is the fruit of the flesh do you ?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    Performance of a action is a work! We become active after we are saved or made alive by grace. August 5 John 6:37 Day 218 ‘Shall come to me’ Read Psalm 110:1-7 No man by nature will ever, of his own accord, come to Christ and be saved. He has neither the will nor the ability, in...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    My point is yes, the spiritually alive person turns to God, He is working in the saved to will and to do of His good pleasure Phil 2:13 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. @JonC In fact, our turning is the result of already having been turned by...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    @Silverhair Right, so if God saved you because you performed an action, that's salvation by your works. Thats condemned by scripture.
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    They have a will to come after they are saved. Drawing them and saving them are one and the same. Its the New Heart man thats being drawn Ezk 36:26-27 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    @JonC No because its the new regenerated man being drawn, and he or she is made will in the day of Gods drawing power Ps 110:3 3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth. The drawing isnt...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    According to Jesus words here can a man by his own freewill ability come to Christ ? Jn 6:65 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. 2 Man is a slave to sin and has no freewill ability to come to Christ and believe in...
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

    Man is a slave to sin and still responsible or his sinning.
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    Faith # 3

    Faith and Repentance ! Faith in Christ and Repentance towards God Acts 20:21 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Faith in Christ and Repentance toward God are acts from those who have a much superior quality of...
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